From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Tue Jun 2 18:31:46 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:31:46 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] JSBA Raffle Message-ID: <4A25A852.2040901@windstream.net> The JSBA Annual General Meeting will again include an online raffle. The donations this year are better than ever - we even have a lovely ewe lamb! You do not need to attend the AGM to participate. You may purchase tickets via check or PayPal. Please take a minute to check out: http://patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html Donations are still being accepted, so do check back often. Thanks! Linda Bjarkman AGM Rafflemaster :-) -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Tue Jun 2 18:34:38 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 18:34:38 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] JSBA Raffle Message-ID: <4A25A8FE.1080505@windstream.net> The JSBA Annual General Meeting will again include an online raffle. The donation this year are better than ever - we even have a lovely ewe lamb! You do not need to attend the AGM to participate. You may purchase tickets via check or PayPal. Please take a minute to check out: http://patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html Donations are still being accepted, so do check back often. Thanks! Linda Bjarkman AGM Rafflemaster -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep From rlynde at onramp113.org Wed Jun 3 10:21:54 2009 From: rlynde at onramp113.org (Robin Lynde) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 07:21:54 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] jsba database Message-ID: The JSBA database has been updated. Go to www.jsba.org and click on pedigree search. Robin Lynde Meridian Jacobs Vacaville, CA www.meridianjacobs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beegal7 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 10 11:13:03 2009 From: beegal7 at yahoo.com (Meg Steensland) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Message-ID: <853500.59251.qm@web31505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I wanted to second Heather's message about going to the AGM (from OH) and mention how grateful we are to see the meeting happeninng almost on our doorsteps. ? I too will attend and bring sheep to participate and trade/sell if the opportunity presents itself. I would also invite motoring attendees to come to my farm after, if your schedule permits.? I am in OH near Mansfield and Heather lives near Wooster - both accessible from US30. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hobsickle at aol.com Thu Jun 11 07:19:22 2009 From: Hobsickle at aol.com (Hobsickle at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 07:19:22 EDT Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM registrations Message-ID: Just a reminder that AGM registration deadline is approaching. I've been e-mailing JSBA members, but about 2 dozen addresses are coming back as no good. If you are a JSBA member (or recent member) and haven't been getting AGM e-mail updates then either your spam filter is catching them ore we don't have a good e-mail address for you. -Dan _http://www.dandysdabblings.com/JSBA%20AGM/agm_2009.htm_ (http://www.dandysdabblings.com/JSBA%20AGM/agm_2009.htm) **************Dell Deals: Don?t miss huge summer savings on popular laptops starting at $449. 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I am wondering if the overfull rumen acted like an internal turniquet? Anyone got any insight? I did learn from this one though. Even with a CD & T they could use a CD antitoxin during weaning. I hate to do that to a Jacob though, but what else are you going to do? Chris Griffin's Ark www.griffinsark.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Sun Jun 14 17:51:25 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 17:51:25 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] death of a lamb question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A3570DD.1090102@windstream.net> Anemia can be a sign of severe parasite infestation. The FAMACHA system uses eyelid checks to monitor anemia caused by barber pole worms. Here in the southeast, barber pole infestations are a serious problem and perhaps the leading cause of lamb deaths. Thank you for taking the time to necropsy your lamb and to share your findings with us. I always learn so much from other shepherds on this list. I hope you'll let us know what you learn. I'm sorry for your loss. It's so hard to lose one. Linda Chris and Tina Griffin wrote: > Last night we had a 10 week old lamb that was being weaned or at least > ignored by her mom die. I believe it was from over eating (sp > enterortoximia?) I did find her before she passed and I did open her > up right after. Her stomachs were solid full. Her liver seemed to be > a bit more brown than I thought it should be and her lungs were very > light pink (bordering on white). 30 minutes before she died her > eyelids were white as paper as well as her gums. All of the rest of > her organs looked fine (as far as a layman can identify) I am about > to open her rumen and take a look at the food. The obvious anemia? is > what has me baffled. I am wondering if the overfull rumen acted like > an internal turniquet? Anyone got any insight? I did learn from this > one though. Even with a CD & T they could use a CD antitoxin during > weaning. I hate to do that to a Jacob though, but what else are you > going to do? > > Chris > Griffin's Ark > www.griffinsark.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Fri Jun 19 07:49:00 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:49:00 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle Message-ID: <4A3B7B2C.5020905@windstream.net> The online raffle offerings are complete. Thank you to everyone that donated an outstanding collection of raffle items. This is the best raffle ever! You do not need to be present at the AGM to win. You may purchase tickets by check or PayPal. Tickets will also be sold at the AGM. If purchasing by check or PayPal, please get your requests to me by Thursday night, June 25. Please check out: http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html Linda -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Fri Jun 19 07:49:25 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:49:25 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle Message-ID: <4A3B7B45.2020209@windstream.net> The online raffle offerings are complete. Thank you to everyone that donated an outstanding collection of raffle items. This is the best raffle ever! You do not need to be present at the AGM to win. You may purchase tickets by check or PayPal. Tickets will also be sold at the AGM. If purchasing by check or PayPal, please get your requests to me by Thursday night, June 25. Please check out: http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html Linda -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep From griffin45 at live.com Fri Jun 19 14:02:36 2009 From: griffin45 at live.com (Chris and Tina Griffin) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:02:36 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Worming lambs Message-ID: Hi All, I am trying to decide what to do with my lambs. We had a lamb die from a Parasite infestation and as wet as it is here I am concerned that we might loose more. Using the FAMACHA method like Linda said I am able to really identify those sheep in jeopardy. I have Cydectin drench for sheep, but it is not recommended for lambs less than 4 months. Since I am not sure what to use, I spotted the lambs with 2.5 ml of Cydectin pour on for cattle. We give this to goats as a drench and it works well against a large number of parasites and worms. Of the 4 lambs that we have only one is anemic to the point of me being concerned. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Chris and Tina Griffin's Ark, Chatham, VA www.griffinsark.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Fri Jun 19 19:09:03 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:09:03 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Worming lambs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A3C1A8F.8030500@windstream.net> I had a lamb last year that was severely anemia. I couldn't find any iron supplements for livestock anywhere nearby, so used iron tablets from Walmart. The tablets were 65 mg, equivalent to 325 mg of ferrous sulfate. The dosage of ferrous sulfate for sheep (according to The Veterinary Drug Handbook) is .5 to 2 g orally per day for two weeks. I gave her two tablets a day for two weeks and saw an improvement in eyelid color within three days and an improvement in attitude and appetite in just a couple of days. I realize that giving people medicine to animals is not always recommended, but sometimes you have to go with what you have available. Waiting for an order to be delivered did not seem prudent in this case. If you have easy/quick access to livestock medications, then that should be your first choice. Linda Chris and Tina Griffin wrote: > Hi All, > I am trying to decide what to do with my lambs. We had a lamb die > from a Parasite infestation and as wet as it is here I am concerned > that we might loose more. Using the FAMACHA method like Linda said I > am able to really identify those sheep in jeopardy. I have Cydectin > drench for sheep, but it is not recommended for lambs less than 4 > months. Since I am not sure what to use, I spotted the lambs with 2.5 > ml of Cydectin pour on for cattle. We give this to goats as a drench > and it works well against a large number of parasites and worms. Of > the 4 lambs that we have only one is anemic to the point of me being > concerned. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks, > Chris and Tina > Griffin's Ark, Chatham, VA > www.griffinsark.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mom.frick at gmail.com Sun Jun 21 10:09:02 2009 From: mom.frick at gmail.com (kristi frick) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:09:02 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Parasite control Message-ID: Hi Tina and Chris, The best way to treat parasites is to use managed grazing, and have fecals done on at least the worst members of your flock so you can know what parasites are causing the problem. We had a problem with loose stools in our flock this year so I started treating them for coccidiosis, but it wasn't helping with all the sheep, so I ran a fecal and found we had trichostrongylus which caused similar symptoms. If we would have just had the fecal run we could have saved ourselves the $80 bottle of corrid. We have to dry lot our sheep at certain times to keep from overgrazing our limited pasture, and this makes it difficult because we have to clean up uneaten feed every day, twice a day, plus we have mats down in front of the feeders that we clean twice daily in order to keep them from eating around their feces, thus reinfesting themselves. If you are mainly using pasture to feed your livestock, it may be wise to invest in some electronet to quardon them off in areas small enough that they can eat them in a 12hr period, and move them 2x a day. I would recomend electronet brand from premier (the white kind with the plastic struts and not tension net!), and if your area is extremely wet, disconnect the bottom two wires so that they don't ground out the fence. Don't let the sheep graze the pasture down shorter than two to four inches. The parasites like to be deep down in the crowns where it stays moist, and plus, the shorter the grass is grazed the closer the sheep are eating to their feces. The best way to create sever parasite problems is set stocking. http://www.wormboss.com.au/LivePage.aspx?pageId=531 I hope this helps, and good luck with your lambs. Lynette Frick IDEAL FARM Jacob Sheep www.idealjacobsheep.com From rockytopjacobs at att.net Mon Jun 22 19:52:15 2009 From: rockytopjacobs at att.net (Jason Anders) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:52:15 +0000 Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn Message-ID: <062220092352.1947.4A40192F0001B9430000079B22230703729B0A02D29B9B0EBF030E9FD2970E06D29C9D0A0B020E@att.net> Hello Everyone: Our ram decided to sneak into the corn supply and eat a lot of corn Sunday morning. This morning he has very loose stools and tonight he doesn't seem to be himself. He's still eating, just maybe acting a little slower. Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks so much. Jason Anders Rocky Top Jacobs -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Mon Jun 22 19:57:11 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:57:11 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn In-Reply-To: <062220092352.1947.4A40192F0001B9430000079B22230703729B0A02D29B9B0EBF030E9FD2970E06D29C9D0A0B020E@att.net> References: <062220092352.1947.4A40192F0001B9430000079B22230703729B0A02D29B9B0EBF030E9FD2970E06D29C9D0A0B020E@att.net> Message-ID: <4A401A57.60303@windstream.net> *_ _* *_ _* *_Acidosis:_* This is a very common problem in lambs consuming a high grain diet, usually when finishing for market. Acidosis can affect any age sheep, but most breeding animals do not receive high enough levels of grain for it to be of a practical problem (unless of course they obtain unwanted access to high levels of grains). Acidosis is simply the over-consumption of highly fermentable starch or carbohydrates. Known also as grain overload. What happens when sheep over consume grain is that more lactic acid is produced through bacterial breakdown of the starch than bacteria can utilize or remove from the rumen. This excess lactic acid then decreases the pH (makes it more acidic) of the rumen. This results in an upset rumen, diarrhea, lowering of feed consumption, a fever, etc. Also, some of the excess lactic acidic can be absorbed into the bloodstream, lowering the pH of the blood. This can cause foundering and even liver damage. Lactic acidosis can be a serious health concern, and can cause death, in serious cases, and founder, and poor growth in less extreme cases. The best prevention of acidosis is to take the time to properly adjust lambs to high grain diets. It takes two to three weeks to move a lamb up from a primarily forage diet to a high grain diet. It actually is time needed for the microbial population to shift to utilize the lactic acid being produced. Do not increase the amount of grain more than one-fourth pound per lamb per day when working the grain content of a diet up. Also, keep grains in a secure area so escaping sheep do not have access to overindulge on them. If sheep do get acidosis, the best treatment is to try to neutralize the acid in the rumen. This is done with baking soda diluted with water and physically drenching the sheep or the free choice feeding of it (if they will eat it). Also, treating the sheep with an anti-inflammatory agent (banamine or aspirin) will help reduce fever and founder problems. Treating them with an antibiotic is also recommended. Jason Anders wrote: > Hello Everyone: > > Our ram decided to sneak into the corn supply and eat a lot of corn > Sunday morning. This morning he has very loose stools and tonight he > doesn't seem to be himself. He's still eating, just maybe acting a > little slower. Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks so much. > > Jason Anders > Rocky Top Jacobs > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us Tue Jun 23 12:40:53 2009 From: hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us (hobbyknobfarm) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 12:40:53 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] overeating/acidosis References: Message-ID: <477BBBE5B43C4564912DF8809C17A620@daron1> Jason, pepto bismol, hay, (no grain), b-complex -has worked for me in the past when my goats do not have sense enough to stop eating-they are usually a little off for a couple of days Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 12:15 PM Subject: Jacob-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 9 > Send Jacob-list mailing list submissions to > jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > jacob-list-owner at jacobsheep.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Jacob-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ram Overdosed on Corn (Jason Anders) > 2. Re: Ram Overdosed on Corn (Linda) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 23:52:15 +0000 > From: "Jason Anders" > Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn > To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > Message-ID: > <062220092352.1947.4A40192F0001B9430000079B22230703729B0A02D29B9B0EBF030E9FD2970E06D29C9D0A0B020E at att.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hello Everyone: > > Our ram decided to sneak into the corn supply and eat a lot of corn Sunday > morning. This morning he has very loose stools and tonight he doesn't > seem to be himself. He's still eating, just maybe acting a little slower. > Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks so much. > > Jason Anders > Rocky Top Jacobs > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:57:11 -0400 > From: Linda > Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn > To: Jason Anders > Cc: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > Message-ID: <4A401A57.60303 at windstream.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > *_ > _* > > *_ > _* > > *_Acidosis:_* > This is a very common problem in lambs consuming a high grain diet, > usually when finishing for market. Acidosis can affect any age sheep, > but most breeding animals do not receive high enough levels of grain for > it to be of a practical problem (unless of course they obtain unwanted > access to high levels of grains). > > Acidosis is simply the over-consumption of highly fermentable starch or > carbohydrates. Known also as grain overload. What happens when sheep > over consume grain is that more lactic acid is produced through > bacterial breakdown of the starch than bacteria can utilize or remove > from the rumen. This excess lactic acid then decreases the pH (makes it > more acidic) of the rumen. This results in an upset rumen, diarrhea, > lowering of feed consumption, a fever, etc. Also, some of the excess > lactic acidic can be absorbed into the bloodstream, lowering the pH of > the blood. This can cause foundering and even liver damage. > > Lactic acidosis can be a serious health concern, and can cause death, in > serious cases, and founder, and poor growth in less extreme cases. The > best prevention of acidosis is to take the time to properly adjust lambs > to high grain diets. It takes two to three weeks to move a lamb up from > a primarily forage diet to a high grain diet. It actually is time needed > for the microbial population to shift to utilize the lactic acid being > produced. Do not increase the amount of grain more than one-fourth pound > per lamb per day when working the grain content of a diet up. Also, keep > grains in a secure area so escaping sheep do not have access to > overindulge on them. > > If sheep do get acidosis, the best treatment is to try to neutralize the > acid in the rumen. This is done with baking soda diluted with water and > physically drenching the sheep or the free choice feeding of it (if they > will eat it). Also, treating the sheep with an anti-inflammatory agent > (banamine or aspirin) will help reduce fever and founder problems. > Treating them with an antibiotic is also recommended. > > > > Jason Anders wrote: >> Hello Everyone: >> >> Our ram decided to sneak into the corn supply and eat a lot of corn >> Sunday morning. This morning he has very loose stools and tonight he >> doesn't seem to be himself. He's still eating, just maybe acting a >> little slower. Any words of wisdom out there? Thanks so much. >> >> Jason Anders >> Rocky Top Jacobs >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks >> Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com >> http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list >> > > -- > http://www.patchworkfibers.com > Registered Jacob Sheep > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > > > End of Jacob-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 9 > ***************************************** From aztreaz at earthlink.net Tue Jun 23 17:44:53 2009 From: aztreaz at earthlink.net (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE) Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 14:44:53 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn Message-ID: <410-220096223214453281@earthlink.net> >If sheep do get acidosis, the best treatment is to try to neutralize the >acid in the rumen. This is done with baking soda diluted with water and >physically drenching the sheep or the free choice feeding of it (if they >will eat it). Also, treating the sheep with an anti-inflammatory agent >(banamine or aspirin) will help reduce fever and founder problems. >Treating them with an antibiotic is also recommended. ========= All true, except I was advised to mix mineral oil with the baking soda; although Linda did write to dilute the baking soda with water. That is probably fine. The mineral oil protects the innards from the strong chemical reaction of the baking soda with the acid in the rumen. Just plain, undiluted baking soda causes problems. Also start feeding lots of grass hay. Perhaps giving some goat yogurt with active cultures would help too. Cathy Moscow, Idaho From hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us Wed Jun 24 13:03:14 2009 From: hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us (hobbyknobfarm) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:03:14 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows Message-ID: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks Elizabeth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannah at knoxfarms.com Wed Jun 24 15:35:34 2009 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:35:34 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows In-Reply-To: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> References: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <64801.64.40.83.53.1245872134.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> I have to completely separate my Jacob ram from my does through their breeding season and part of the winter. He is very rough and sometimes chases them when they're pregnant. I am actually looking to replace him with a polled ram (not a Jacob of course). I think he would be ok with cows, though. Hope this helps! > Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to > breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about > keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any > does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe > that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks > Elizabeth_______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Wed Jun 24 19:15:30 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:15:30 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn In-Reply-To: <410-220096223214453281@earthlink.net> References: <410-220096223214453281@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4A42B392.9010601@windstream.net> That was just a quote from a vet site. I didn't write it :-) I've been fortunate in never having to deal with acidiosis, but if I do, the mineral oil sounds like a good idea. ARTHUR PARTRIDGE wrote: >> If sheep do get acidosis, the best treatment is to try to neutralize the >> acid in the rumen. This is done with baking soda diluted with water and >> physically drenching the sheep or the free choice feeding of it (if they >> will eat it). Also, treating the sheep with an anti-inflammatory agent >> (banamine or aspirin) will help reduce fever and founder problems. >> Treating them with an antibiotic is also recommended. >> > ========= > All true, except I was advised to mix mineral oil with the baking soda; > although Linda did write to dilute the baking soda with water. That is > probably fine. The mineral oil protects the innards from the strong > chemical reaction of the baking soda with the acid in the rumen. Just > plain, undiluted baking soda causes problems. Also start feeding lots of > grass hay. Perhaps giving some goat yogurt with active cultures would help > too. > Cathy > Moscow, Idaho > > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nlgrose at yadtel.net Wed Jun 24 22:37:38 2009 From: nlgrose at yadtel.net (Neal and Louise Grose) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:37:38 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows References: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <673069EA814C4F9F8C1189EC5AF1AC92@HAL2> OK, some rams will try to breed goats (just as goats can be used as teasers for ewes), cows, and the occasional tree stump. (One item of note: if the does are from a primitive breed, such as Angora, there is a chance that a hybrid offspring may result. We think that we had a AngoraXJacob many years ago.) Generally though, there should not be a problem with keeping a ram in with other mature animals. We have had Jacob rams and cattle together before with sometimes hilarious results. Our first ram was pretty sure that he was THE dominant animal in any given situation...even when staring down a 1600 pound Holstein. Then there was Buster and Jan. Buster was as easy going as a ram could be and seemed to enjoy sharing his paddock with a shaggy little Hgihland cow. Come breeding season, I thought it would be simple to divide the flock and put half in with him. Jan, who was smarter and a bit more mischievous than the average cow decided that it was fun to annoy the ram when he needed to do his job. One morning I was startled to see Buster chasing Jan around the pasture, and every time she slowed down, he would pop her in the rear. She deserved it. Neal Grose ----- Original Message ----- From: hobbyknobfarm To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:03 PM Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks Elizabeth ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lasell at lasell.org Wed Jun 24 23:07:53 2009 From: lasell at lasell.org (Lasell J. Bartlett) Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:07:53 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows In-Reply-To: <64801.64.40.83.53.1245872134.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> References: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> <64801.64.40.83.53.1245872134.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> Message-ID: On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Hannah wrote: >> Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams >> try to >> breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking >> about >> keeping him with cows and goats. When we had cows, we kept the sheep (ewes and ram) in with the cows. We did have horned cows (Dexters) and indeed I recall seeing the bull put the ram in his place a time or two. I was grateful for that. Lasell J Bartlett MSW "It's our nature to get along." From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Thu Jun 25 07:47:59 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:47:59 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle Message-ID: <4A4363EF.2050803@windstream.net> Deadline for purchasing tickets online is Friday, June 26, at 6am est. http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Thu Jun 25 07:49:42 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:49:42 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle Message-ID: <4A436456.4020807@windstream.net> Deadline for purchasing AGM raffle tickets online is Friday, June 26, 6am, EST. http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep From lasell at lasell.org Thu Jun 25 08:56:09 2009 From: lasell at lasell.org (Lasell J. Bartlett) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle In-Reply-To: <4A4363EF.2050803@windstream.net> References: <4A4363EF.2050803@windstream.net> Message-ID: On Jun 25, 2009, at 7:47 AM, Linda wrote: > Deadline for purchasing tickets online is Friday, June 26, at 6am est. > > http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html I am VERY impressed with the raffle items! We have some creative Jacob owners. Makes me long for cold winter evenings when I might be inside with time on my hands. Lasell J Bartlett, Vermont From rmitschler at gmail.com Thu Jun 25 10:26:58 2009 From: rmitschler at gmail.com (Ralene Mitschler) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:26:58 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows In-Reply-To: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> References: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP@main.nc.us> Message-ID: <6a515c580906250726k22dd158x839d8dc4cdb3da93@mail.gmail.com> Hi Elizabeth and ListersI kept one Jersey steer together with my jacob flock for about a year and the steer behaved like a livestock guardian dog especially for lambs. The steer thought he was a sheep; he pronged about with the sheep which was quite the sight. What I didn't realize was that i should put the steer in the tiny "get reacquainted pen' with the rams after shearing.... tee hee When I released the rams one of the rams promptly went over and rammed the steer in the behind. The steer was startled but then 'rammed' back with his head (he had small horns). When the ram backed up to really lay one charge on, the steer gently butted the ram off his feet and kept his head on the ram. then the ram was used as a 'plow' for a few feet through the snow. I was terrified for the ram but my friends Katrina and Dave who were the owners of said ram were helpless with laughter. I yelled at the steer to let up the ram which he good-naturedly did. For his trouble the ram came back and once again popped the steer in the behind. this time i didn't interfere with the steer's payback. all ended well for all the animals--- apparently the correct ranking was achieved. then one day the steer started hopping my sheep fences like one of the rams..... Ralene On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:03 PM, hobbyknobfarm wrote: > Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to > breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about > keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any does > and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe that > will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks > Elizabeth > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > > -- Ralene Mitschler Chicory Lane Farm Jacob sheep 687 Oxford Ave Hanover PA 17331 rmitschler at gmail.com 717.630.2988 717.817.3794 cell -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gbanderson at ucdavis.edu Thu Jun 25 15:18:24 2009 From: gbanderson at ucdavis.edu (Gary Anderson) Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:18:24 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Rams with does In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Regarding the question of rams mating with does, you might advise the person interested in buying your ram that some rams will mate with does and some not. Some rams that will not mate with does at first exposure may do so over time. Perhaps more problematic than the mating is that goat ova are readily fertilized by ram spermatozoa with the resulting pregnancy usually surviving 45 to 60 days of gestation. Occasionally the hybrid goat x sheep pregnancy survives longer, but infrequently does it survive to term. These hybrid pregnancies can affect successful breeding to bucks by virtue of the fact that the does will not cycle while pregnant. (The reciprocal mating of a ewe by a buck is less likely to result in successful fertilization; should fertilization occur, the resulting pregnancy typically is lost by about 30 days.) -----Original Message----- From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 7:50 AM To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Subject: Jacob-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11 Send Jacob-list mailing list submissions to jacob-list at jacobsheep.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com You can reach the person managing the list at jacob-list-owner at jacobsheep.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Jacob-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. rams with cows (hobbyknobfarm) 2. Re: rams with cows (Hannah) 3. Re: Ram Overdosed on Corn (Linda) 4. Re: rams with cows (Neal and Louise Grose) 5. Re: rams with cows (Lasell J. Bartlett) 6. AGM Raffle (Linda) 7. AGM Raffle (Linda) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:03:14 -0400 From: "hobbyknobfarm" Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows To: Message-ID: <7t391c00P02oDkc05t39pP at main.nc.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks Elizabeth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:35:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hannah" Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] rams with cows To: "hobbyknobfarm" Cc: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: <64801.64.40.83.53.1245872134.squirrel at kit.rc4systems.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I have to completely separate my Jacob ram from my does through their breeding season and part of the winter. He is very rough and sometimes chases them when they're pregnant. I am actually looking to replace him with a polled ram (not a Jacob of course). I think he would be ok with cows, though. Hope this helps! > Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to > breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about > keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any > does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe > that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks > Elizabeth_______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:15:30 -0400 From: Linda Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Ram Overdosed on Corn To: aztreaz at earthlink.net Cc: jacob-list Message-ID: <4A42B392.9010601 at windstream.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed" That was just a quote from a vet site. I didn't write it :-) I've been fortunate in never having to deal with acidiosis, but if I do, the mineral oil sounds like a good idea. ARTHUR PARTRIDGE wrote: >> If sheep do get acidosis, the best treatment is to try to neutralize the >> acid in the rumen. This is done with baking soda diluted with water and >> physically drenching the sheep or the free choice feeding of it (if they >> will eat it). Also, treating the sheep with an anti-inflammatory agent >> (banamine or aspirin) will help reduce fever and founder problems. >> Treating them with an antibiotic is also recommended. >> > ========= > All true, except I was advised to mix mineral oil with the baking soda; > although Linda did write to dilute the baking soda with water. That is > probably fine. The mineral oil protects the innards from the strong > chemical reaction of the baking soda with the acid in the rumen. Just > plain, undiluted baking soda causes problems. Also start feeding lots of > grass hay. Perhaps giving some goat yogurt with active cultures would help > too. > Cathy > Moscow, Idaho > > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:37:38 -0400 From: "Neal and Louise Grose" Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] rams with cows To: "jacob-list" Message-ID: <673069EA814C4F9F8C1189EC5AF1AC92 at HAL2> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" OK, some rams will try to breed goats (just as goats can be used as teasers for ewes), cows, and the occasional tree stump. (One item of note: if the does are from a primitive breed, such as Angora, there is a chance that a hybrid offspring may result. We think that we had a AngoraXJacob many years ago.) Generally though, there should not be a problem with keeping a ram in with other mature animals. We have had Jacob rams and cattle together before with sometimes hilarious results. Our first ram was pretty sure that he was THE dominant animal in any given situation...even when staring down a 1600 pound Holstein. Then there was Buster and Jan. Buster was as easy going as a ram could be and seemed to enjoy sharing his paddock with a shaggy little Hgihland cow. Come breeding season, I thought it would be simple to divide the flock and put half in with him. Jan, who was smarter and a bit more mischievous than the average cow decided that it was fun to annoy the ram when he needed to do his job. One morning I was startled to see Buster chasing Jan around the pasture, and every time she slowed down, he would pop her in the rear. She deserved it. Neal Grose ----- Original Message ----- From: hobbyknobfarm To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:03 PM Subject: [Jacob-list] rams with cows Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams try to breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking about keeping him with cows and goats. I have mine with wethers but never any does and never any cows. He most likely will only have the ram and a ewe that will eventually need to be separated when lambs come. Thanks Elizabeth ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:07:53 -0400 From: "Lasell J. Bartlett" Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] rams with cows To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Hannah wrote: >> Does anyone keep rams with cows? any thoughts on this? Will rams >> try to >> breed goats(does of course) Someone is buying my ram and is asking >> about >> keeping him with cows and goats. When we had cows, we kept the sheep (ewes and ram) in with the cows. We did have horned cows (Dexters) and indeed I recall seeing the bull put the ram in his place a time or two. I was grateful for that. Lasell J Bartlett MSW "It's our nature to get along." ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:47:59 -0400 From: Linda Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: <4A4363EF.2050803 at windstream.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Deadline for purchasing tickets online is Friday, June 26, at 6am est. http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:49:42 -0400 From: Linda Subject: [Jacob-list] AGM Raffle To: Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: <4A436456.4020807 at windstream.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Deadline for purchasing AGM raffle tickets online is Friday, June 26, 6am, EST. http://www.patchworkfibers.com/raffle.html -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list End of Jacob-list Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11 ****************************************** From lynettefrick at gmail.com Fri Jun 26 12:28:16 2009 From: lynettefrick at gmail.com (Lynette Frick) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:28:16 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Complete Flock Dispersal Message-ID: <22872c750906260928w2f15821bia2d8e31efbc7731a@mail.gmail.com> Dear list, I have the grave announcement that I must have a complete flock dispersal sale. This time they really absolutey HAVE to go. I am going to remain a JSBA member, keep two retirees, and hope to own Jacob Sheep sometime again in the future, but have once again gotten between a rock, and a hard place. I have neither the time, space, nor finances for livestock at this time in my life, and this time my family can't help my situation. Anyone who knows me can tell you that my flock has been my life, I have devoted everything to them. For those of you who don't know about the IDEAL FARM flock, I purchased my first four ewes from Mr. Anderson of Hillside Farms, about four years ago this October. From there, we incorporated bide a wee, Painted Rock, Meridian, Craft, Kenleigh, and other bloodlines. The ewes available are ones that have passed the bar of rigorous culling, with the criteria of: High Quality Fleeces, Horns, Conformation, Hardyness, parasite resistance, and for a good portion of the flock daggless bums, and clean bellies. Of coarse not every sheep has every trait, but the ones that they do all carry are parasite resistance, and hardyness. I do my own butchering (and we run fecals on suspect sheep), so unthrifty sheep don't stay long. My goal all along with my flock has been to breed for medium sized ewes that would take the rigors of a commercial crossbred production operation, being able forage well, gain or maintain on less than ideal feed, be highly fertile, easy lambers, milky, and tight flocking. I don't show my sheep, and have never had an outbreak (never vaccinated for) Orf. I have maintained very strict quarantine protocols for all new individuals, and have never had a case of OPP or had any sheep that has ever tested positive for OPP. Some of the ewes are coated, and all individuals are registered (Minus one that I forgot to send papers in for! Ooops). I will guarantee registration on all lambs purchased as breeding stock. Please contact me soon if you are interested. I am really hoping to not have to buy another squeeze of hay. Discounts on group purchases. Shipping may be available, as I already have some sheep that need shipping to AZ. The prices on the web page do not reflect current pricing ( which is much lower), and will be updated (hopefully) by this afternoon. Thank you all for your help, support, and great sheep talk! -- Lynette Frick IDEAL FARM Jacob Sheep www.idealjacobsheep.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rockytopjacobs at att.net Fri Jun 26 15:41:21 2009 From: rockytopjacobs at att.net (Jason Anders) Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:41:21 +0000 Subject: [Jacob-list] Update on Ram Overdose of Corn Message-ID: <062620091941.20026.4A45246100041A5200004E3A22230650029B0A02D29B9B0EBF030E9FD2970E06D29C9D0A0B020E@att.net> Hello Everyone: I just wanted to write to say thank you for all your advice given about my ram and his overdose of corn. He is back to his socialable self. 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For me, an important benefit of attending the AGM, in addition to meeting new friends and reconnecting with old ones, is the opportunity to pick up breeding stock that otherwise is less readily available. An AGM highlight for Dianne was to hold the winning raffle ticket for the Jacob sheep watercolor by (and donated to the AGM raffle by) Royal Unzicker; I knew better than to ask how many tickets we purchased to enhance our chances of winning this prize! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us Mon Jun 29 18:22:51 2009 From: hobbyknobfarm at main.nc.us (hobbyknobfarm) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:22:51 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] raffle Message-ID: <8C31B60031814095A73B0F7A10C92B8E@daron1> YIPEE!!!! I can get more fiber processed this fall!! that was a great list of items for the raffle. Thanks to Linda for getting that web list and taking paypal! And to all who donated items-unfortunately many are probably not on this list. I didn't really have room for that watercolor anyway!!! Elizabeth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at windstream.net Mon Jun 29 19:39:09 2009 From: patchworkfibers at windstream.net (Linda) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:39:09 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] raffle In-Reply-To: <8C31B60031814095A73B0F7A10C92B8E@daron1> References: <8C31B60031814095A73B0F7A10C92B8E@daron1> Message-ID: <4A49509D.6090906@windstream.net> I love the online raffle :-) I hope it will continue over the years. I'm always impressed with what wonderful donations we get and with the talent of our Jacob Sheep breeders. Can't wait to get my Joan Gross photo! I second the thank you to all that donated. Linda hobbyknobfarm wrote: > YIPEE!!!! I can get more fiber processed this fall!! that was a great > list of items for the raffle. Thanks to Linda for getting that web > list and taking paypal! And to all who donated items-unfortunately > many are probably not on this list. I didn't really have room for that > watercolor anyway!!! > Elizabeth > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stcroft at ptd.net Tue Jun 30 19:31:51 2009 From: stcroft at ptd.net (Susan J Martin) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:31:51 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) Message-ID: Where is the AGM next year - 2010? Sue Stonecroft -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carlfosbrink at yahoo.com Tue Jun 30 20:06:02 2009 From: carlfosbrink at yahoo.com (CARL FOSBRINK) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <424585.74976.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I think Royal Unzicker is hosting it. Carl and Judy Fosbrink www.4hornfarm.com --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Susan J Martin wrote: From: Susan J Martin Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) To: "Sheep E-mail List" Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 7:31 PM Where is the AGM next year - 2010? Sue Stonecroft -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lambfarm at sover.net Tue Jun 30 20:50:28 2009 From: lambfarm at sover.net (Betty Berlenbach) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:50:28 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) References: <424585.74976.qm@web55506.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <003b01c9f9e5$f576f250$f7ac72d8@USER5AFE0954BF> That's what he told me; I think that's pretty exciting! I've volunteered to help him. ----- Original Message ----- From: CARL FOSBRINK To: Sheep E-mail List ; Susan J Martin Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] (no subject) I think Royal Unzicker is hosting it. Carl and Judy Fosbrink www.4hornfarm.com --- On Tue, 6/30/09, Susan J Martin wrote: From: Susan J Martin Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) To: "Sheep E-mail List" Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 7:31 PM Where is the AGM next year - 2010? Sue Stonecroft -----Inline Attachment Follows----- _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Hobsickle at aol.com Tue Jun 30 21:15:37 2009 From: Hobsickle at aol.com (Hobsickle at aol.com) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:15:37 EDT Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) Message-ID: Yes, Royal has volunteered to host next year's AGM. We haven't had a board meeting to make it official, though. I am personally very excited for the chance to get up to Royal's "neck of the woods." -Dan **************It's raining cats and dogs -- Come to PawNation, a place where pets rule! (http://www.pawnation.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000008) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: