From ACAMDA at aol.com Sun Feb 1 19:46:16 2009 From: ACAMDA at aol.com (ACAMDA at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 19:46:16 EST Subject: [Jacob-list] strange question Message-ID: This may be the strangest question ever on the list, but I can't seem to make a decision, so I need to ask your advice. My daughter works four nights a week at a movie theater, and each night the employees take home huge bags of popcorn, or they throw it out. I think I have two kitchen trash bags full right now. When the popcorn gets old, I've considered tossing it into the yard, but am afraid it might harm the sheep in some way. I hate to see anything go to waste. The popcorn is cooked in "popping oil" (nothing more definitive) and then salted with "popcorn salt". Do you think the popcorn would be safe for them to eat if they picked it up in the yard, or if I were to mix a little with their grain every night? Would I need to get them little toothpicks for when the kernels get stuck in their teeth? :-) Kathey **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, stay up-to-date with the latest news. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannah at knoxfarms.com Mon Feb 2 07:43:19 2009 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 07:43:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Jacob-list] strange question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51652.64.40.83.53.1233578599.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> Hello, My church has a popcorn machine. There are two families at church with chickens (us included) and that stuff never goes to waste. I would think that you could feed it to sheep, but you would want to check the ingredients on the theater's popping oil. Sometimes its no more than coconut oil and flavoring. In this case it would be fine. However, sometimes it has additives that even I wouldn't eat, much less feed to sheep. When incorporating it into their ration, treat it like corn, in that too much will cause hoof problems and the overgrowth of pre-birth lambs. Good luck! Hk > This may be the strangest question ever on the list, but I can't seem to > make a decision, so I need to ask your advice. My daughter works four > nights a > week at a movie theater, and each night the employees take home huge bags > of > popcorn, or they throw it out. I think I have two kitchen trash bags > full > right now. When the popcorn gets old, I've considered tossing it into > the > yard, but am afraid it might harm the sheep in some way. I hate to see > anything > go to waste. The popcorn is cooked in "popping oil" (nothing more > definitive) and then salted with "popcorn salt". Do you think the > popcorn would be > safe for them to eat if they picked it up in the yard, or if I were to > mix a > little with their grain every night? Would I need to get them little > toothpicks > for when the kernels get stuck in their teeth? :-) > > Kathey > **************From Wall Street to Main Street and everywhere in between, > stay > up-to-date with the latest news. > (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000023) > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From RNS1260 at comcast.net Mon Feb 16 18:47:17 2009 From: RNS1260 at comcast.net (RNS1260 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:47:17 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Jacob-list] Jacob Sheep in the News Message-ID: <11715269.954691234828037040.JavaMail.root@sz0160a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Jacob Sheep in the News. http://www.eveningsun.com/localnews/ci_11712252 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From gotothewhip at aol.com Wed Feb 18 10:28:53 2009 From: gotothewhip at aol.com (gotothewhip at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:28:53 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] Castration questions-Behavior Message-ID: <8CB5FF4BDEB5025-E24-1BC@webmail-dx02.sysops.aol.com> THose of you who have late castrated a ram... have you seen a mellowing like we do in horses?? I have a ram with an amazing fleece but his behavior isnt too good!? He bopped the hubby in the head last night when hubby was fixing a coat on another ram.... So he is either going in the freezer or loosing his testicles.? His fleece is nice enough that it usually bring $90-$100 at the fiber festivals.? It really is nice, and structurally he is amazing.. but we have his full brother, who is a current flock sire.? so his "services" are not neede.? We kept him intact, because at most shows, he does well, and has been pinned champion a few times...and reserve several more! 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Chris - Chatham, VA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at alltel.net Thu Feb 19 13:09:27 2009 From: patchworkfibers at alltel.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:09:27 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200921913927.315362@Linda-PC> They are probably referring to SUED (split upper eyelid deformity). It's related to the polycerate gene. In minor cases, it can be barely noticeable and cause no discomfort. You will find many of us breeding four horned to four horned and very few cases of SUED. It really isn't all that common. In fact, I can think of a number of breeding rams with SUED that have not passed the trait onto their offspring, even when bred to four horned ewes. Linda We just bought 6 more Jacobs on Monday. Only one has 4 horns (ewe). The seller told me not to breed a 4 horn ram to a 4 horn ewe or you take a chance of having a cranial birth defect of some sort. Can anyone confirm this for me? We have another ram and ewe that we are thinking about purchasing. The ram is a 4 horn and I have not seen the ewe yet. We also have someone interested in buying a pair from us, so we would like to know if we should sell the 4 horn ewe whose markings are not so good so that we can bring in the 4 horn ram? Thanks All! Chris - Chatham, VA ? http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep, Handspun Yarn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nlgrose at yadtel.net Thu Feb 19 13:12:01 2009 From: nlgrose at yadtel.net (Neal and Louise Grose) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 13:12:01 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding question References: Message-ID: Some used to recommend that 4 horn rams should be interbred with 2 horn rams to fore-stall split upper eyelid deformity and produce more balanced horns. This is ... uh ... misinformation. If you want "correct" four-horn type, then breed for correct balance and set, and this is only a repeatable outcome if you use correct four-horn rams. Likewise, there is no difference in the rate of SUED in heterozygous polycerate versus homozygous polycerate sheep. We have used 4 horn rams almost exclusively for the last 20 years, and we have seen no increase in problems. Neal Grose ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris and Tina Griffin To: Jacob list Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding question We just bought 6 more Jacobs on Monday. Only one has 4 horns (ewe). The seller told me not to breed a 4 horn ram to a 4 horn ewe or you take a chance of having a cranial birth defect of some sort. Can anyone confirm this for me? We have another ram and ewe that we are thinking about purchasing. The ram is a 4 horn and I have not seen the ewe yet. We also have someone interested in buying a pair from us, so we would like to know if we should sell the 4 horn ewe whose markings are not so good so that we can bring in the 4 horn ram? Thanks All! Chris - Chatham, VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Timkoenig5 at aol.com Thu Feb 19 15:37:15 2009 From: Timkoenig5 at aol.com (Timkoenig5 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:37:15 EST Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding Question Message-ID: I've been breeding for 4 horn Jacobs for about 10 years (I just like the multi horn look), and trying for a good balanced 6 horn ram. In all that time, I've had only two lambs with any indication of SUED, and they simply showed one eye with atuft of clumped eyelashes. Included in this were a number of 5-6 horn lambs, none of which showed signs of SUED. Still haven't got that GOOD six horn set though. Tim Koenig Applegarth Farm Elk, Wa **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From carlfosbrink at yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 18:58:11 2009 From: carlfosbrink at yahoo.com (CARL FOSBRINK) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:58:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding question References: Message-ID: <193263.11981.qm@web55503.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Well said as usual Neal. ? Carl ? Carl and Judy Fosbrink www.4hornfarm.com ________________________________ From: Neal and Louise Grose To: Jacob list Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Breeding question Some used to recommend that?4 horn?rams should be interbred with 2 horn rams to fore-stall split upper eyelid deformity and produce more balanced horns. This is ... uh?... misinformation. If you want "correct" four-horn type, then breed for correct balance and set, and this is only?a repeatable outcome?if you use correct four-horn rams. Likewise, there is no difference in the rate of SUED in heterozygous?polycerate?versus homozygous polycerate sheep. We have used 4 horn rams almost exclusively for the last 20 years, and we have seen no increase in problems. ? Neal Grose ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris and Tina Griffin To: Jacob list Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:45 PM Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding question We just bought 6 more Jacobs on Monday.? Only one has 4 horns (ewe).? The seller told me not to breed a 4 horn ram to a 4 horn ewe or you take a chance of having a cranial birth defect of some sort.? Can anyone confirm this for me??We have another ram and ewe that we are?thinking about purchasing.? The ram is a 4 horn and I have not seen the ewe yet.? We also have someone interested in buying a pair from us, so?we would like to know if?we should sell the 4 horn ewe whose markings are not so good so that?we can bring in the 4 horn ram? Thanks All! Chris - Chatham, VA ________________________________ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timberacres at peak.org Fri Feb 20 13:38:10 2009 From: timberacres at peak.org (timberacres at peak.org) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 10:38:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob Lambs - Oregon Message-ID: <64459.70.89.179.109.1235155090.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> We are all done lambing here at Timber Acres!!!! We have 3 sets of twins:) 2/17 - Twins, 1 boy and 1 girl (Black/White) 2/18 - Twins, 1 girl and 1 boy (Black/White) 2/19 - Twins, 2 boys (1 Lilac and 1 Black) Updated pictures will be posted to our web site this weekend! Lisa Stirnemann Timber Acres http://www.timber-acres.com/Jacob%20Lambs.htm From tcarnes at carnesely.com Fri Feb 20 13:52:05 2009 From: tcarnes at carnesely.com (Thomas Carnes) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:52:05 -0600 Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob and Navajo Lambs - Texas In-Reply-To: <64459.70.89.179.109.1235155090.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Message-ID: <20090220185205.GSZJ26723.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@TOM> This week our spring lambs just began arriving in Texas. So far we have seven Navajo-Churro lambs (3 sets of twins and a single). We expect the remainder of our N-C and Jacob lambs beginning next week and continuing for about sixty days. We bred over thirty ewes (mostly Jacobs) this fall, and eagerly await the lambs. We do not have our website up yet, and it may be another week or two. You can, however, become a "fan" of Agarita Creek Farms on Facebook and see our flock and our progress. THOMAS P. CARNES Agarita Creek Farms Business Office: 945 Barnett Street Kerrville, Texas 78028 ( Phone: 830.896.9140 7 Fax: 830.896.0921 ? Email: tcarnes at thomaspcarnes.com : Web: www.thomaspcarnes.com The information transmitted herein is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of timberacres at peak.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:38 PM To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob Lambs - Oregon We are all done lambing here at Timber Acres!!!! We have 3 sets of twins:) 2/17 - Twins, 1 boy and 1 girl (Black/White) 2/18 - Twins, 1 girl and 1 boy (Black/White) 2/19 - Twins, 2 boys (1 Lilac and 1 Black) Updated pictures will be posted to our web site this weekend! Lisa Stirnemann Timber Acres http://www.timber-acres.com/Jacob%20Lambs.htm _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.235 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 From pegvanbeek at msn.com Fri Feb 20 16:20:20 2009 From: pegvanbeek at msn.com (Marguerite Van Beek) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:20:20 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob and Navajo Lambs - Texas In-Reply-To: <20090220185205.GSZJ26723.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@TOM> References: <20090220185205.GSZJ26723.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@TOM> Message-ID: We are done with our Jacob Lambing: Alex bred Champion Bideawee Noel to only three, bidawee Carly, Sweetgrass TaWee and Swallow lane Marta. She has two rams and three ewes, all have excellent coloring, fleeces and of course they are all two horn. I know everyone wants four horn but after seeing the lambs it was a very good choice. Alex was very pleased. We are now waiting for her CVM ewes to lamb. I hope they are as easy as the Jacobs when it comes to lambing and motherhood. We shall see!! Peggy van Beek Ridgecroft Farms ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Carnes" To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob and Navajo Lambs - Texas This week our spring lambs just began arriving in Texas. So far we have seven Navajo-Churro lambs (3 sets of twins and a single). We expect the remainder of our N-C and Jacob lambs beginning next week and continuing for about sixty days. We bred over thirty ewes (mostly Jacobs) this fall, and eagerly await the lambs. We do not have our website up yet, and it may be another week or two. You can, however, become a "fan" of Agarita Creek Farms on Facebook and see our flock and our progress. THOMAS P. CARNES Agarita Creek Farms Business Office: 945 Barnett Street Kerrville, Texas 78028 ( Phone: 830.896.9140 7 Fax: 830.896.0921 ? Email: tcarnes at thomaspcarnes.com : Web: www.thomaspcarnes.com The information transmitted herein is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. -----Original Message----- From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of timberacres at peak.org Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:38 PM To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob Lambs - Oregon We are all done lambing here at Timber Acres!!!! We have 3 sets of twins:) 2/17 - Twins, 1 boy and 1 girl (Black/White) 2/18 - Twins, 1 girl and 1 boy (Black/White) 2/19 - Twins, 2 boys (1 Lilac and 1 Black) Updated pictures will be posted to our web site this weekend! Lisa Stirnemann Timber Acres http://www.timber-acres.com/Jacob%20Lambs.htm _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.235 / Virus Database: 270.10.25/1957 - Release Date: 02/17/09 07:07:00 _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list From lynettefrick at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 10:10:25 2009 From: lynettefrick at gmail.com (Lynette Frick) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:10:25 -0600 Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding Question Message-ID: <22872c750902210710v6a4d19ccr2ed9aa2fdf275020@mail.gmail.com> Actually they are more than likely talking about a form of OCD (Osteocondritis Dissicans), which affects the joint at the base of the scull that attaches the head to the neck. Basically the little pieces that stick out from the bottom of the head look tweaked... a condition also know as OCD (Occipital Condyle Dysplasia), which causes the lambs to be paralyzed, wobblers (ataxia), fall over, or just be unthrifty in severe enough cases. It is a disorder that can be found in any breed of livestock, and humans, but for some reason is more prevalent in the Jacob Breed of sheep. Some people say that breeding a two horned to a four horned will help reduce the likelihood of having any problems with OCD, and that OCD is only found in 4h stock. I do all my own butchering, and found a perfectly healthy lamb with two horns, out of a two horned dam, and four horned sire, with a sever case of OCD. He did not display any ataxia, nor was he unthrifty. The dam and sire where both butchered... for other reasons, neither of which displayed any degree of abnormality of the occipital condyles. One half brother (sire line) was butchered, and was found to have even more severe condyllar dysplasia, another half brother out of the same sire, and a very similar dam line, was completely normal. Once I receive the radiographs, I will make them accessible to everyone, as they are very interesting, and noticeable cases. Good luck with your new sheep, and I wouldn't worry too much about breeding 2H to 4H, just pick the absolute best, and healthy stock you can, and go from there. It's really all you can do, but remember don't toss out the opportunity to use a good two horn, as they are usually cheaper, and give you just as nice, REGISTERABLE offspring! We have had some perfect sets of four horns sired by two horned rams, over four horned ewes. Just look at both the sire and dam's 4h parentage if you have the chance. The Jacob Genepool is just too shallow to toss out good genetics over a single trait that isn't even considered a fault by registry. By the way, if any one would like to participate in a little research project about OCD just let me know. Thank you, good luck, and happy lambing! Lynette Frick IDEAL FARM Jacob Sheep www.idealjacobsheep.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at alltel.net Sat Feb 21 10:43:19 2009 From: patchworkfibers at alltel.net (Linda) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] Breeding Question In-Reply-To: <22872c750902210710v6a4d19ccr2ed9aa2fdf275020@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2009221104319.183372@Linda-PC> On this list, Fred Horak stated: > OCD is a malformation of the condyl (unequal condyls) at the > atlanto/occipital joint; the first bone structure joiining the > vertebrae and skull. It is a > congenital defect that may exhibit no abnormal nec k carraige in > its mildest > form to ataxia in more svere forms. Any apparent carraige > mispresenment or > ataxia is related to the severity of the dysplasia. OCD and LSD > exhibit similar > patterns of behavior; a necropsy is the only way to confirm the > problem; both > seem to be recessive. OCD and LSD are found in both two horn and > polycerate > Jacobs. Evidence suggests it is recessive. > > There is no evidence to support a conhclusion that OCD and SUED are > related. > > hope this helps clarify the issues.;l > > Fred Horak >Actually they are more than likely talking about a form of OCD (Osteocondritis Dissicans), which affects the joint at the base of the scull that attaches the head to the neck. Basically the little pieces that stick out from the bottom of the head look tweaked... a condition also know as OCD (Occipital Condyle Dysplasia), which causes the lambs to be paralyzed, wobblers (ataxia), fall over, or just be unthrifty in severe enough cases. It is a disorder that can be found in any breed of livestock, and humans, but for some reason is more prevalent in the Jacob Breed of sheep. Some people say that breeding a two horned to a four horned will help reduce the likelihood of having any problems with OCD, and that OCD is only found in 4h stock. I do all my own butchering, and found a perfectly healthy lamb with two horns, out of a two horned dam, and four horned sire, with a sever case of OCD. He did not display any ataxia, nor was he unthrifty. The dam and sire where both butchered... for other reasons, neither of which displayed any degree of abnormality of the occipital condyles. One half brother (sire line) was butchered, and was found to have even more severe condyllar dysplasia, another half brother out of the same sire, and a very similar dam line, was completely normal. Once I receive the radiographs, I will make them accessible to everyone, as they are very interesting, and noticeable cases. Good luck with your new sheep, and I wouldn't worry too much about breeding 2H to 4H, just pick the absolute best, and healthy stock you can, and go from there. It's really all you can do, but remember don't toss out the opportunity to use a good two horn, as they are usually cheaper, and give you just as nice, REGISTERABLE offspring! We have had some perfect sets of four horns sired by two horned rams, over four horned ewes. Just look at both the sire and dam's 4h parentage if you have the chance. The Jacob Genepool is just too shallow to toss out good genetics over a single trait that isn't even considered a fault by registry.< Lynette Frick IDEAL FARM Jacob Sheep www.idealjacobsheep.com ? http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep, Handspun Yarn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patchworkfibers at alltel.net Sat Feb 21 14:13:44 2009 From: patchworkfibers at alltel.net (Linda) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:13:44 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] 2009 Jacob Lambs - Oregon In-Reply-To: <64459.70.89.179.109.1235155090.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Message-ID: <2009221141344.938964@Linda-PC> That was sure polite of them to lamb three days in a row! We just started lambing with two ewes lambing with two sets of twins (one set of lilacs). Our lambing is going to be staggered this year, so will continue into April. Some early pictures can be seen at: http://patchworkfibers.com/2009Lambs.html Linda ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` We are all done lambing here at Timber Acres!!!! We have 3 sets of twins:) 2/17 - Twins, 1 boy and 1 girl (Black/White) 2/18 - Twins, 1 girl and 1 boy (Black/White) 2/19 - Twins, 2 boys (1 Lilac and 1 Black) Updated pictures will be posted to our web site this weekend! 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URL: From patchworkfibers at alltel.net Fri Feb 27 15:39:39 2009 From: patchworkfibers at alltel.net (Linda) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 15:39:39 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <2009227153939.462049@Linda-PC> Yes. http://www.jsba.org/search.html Hi, I'm updating a lot of old records and find that I'm missing a lot of ancestry going back more than one generation. Is there an online database of Jacob registrations I can access? Tim Koenig Applegarth Farm A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! http://www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep, Handspun Yarn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marytonkin at comcast.net Fri Feb 27 20:17:40 2009 From: marytonkin at comcast.net (marytonkin at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 01:17:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Jacob-list] Fwd: Lambs in Washington In-Reply-To: <748704542.1321681235782359953.JavaMail.root@sz0095a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <911943630.1329271235783860888.JavaMail.root@sz0095a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Hello all,? ?We started our lambing season here in Washington with beautiful, flashy twin ewe lambs sired by our 4 horn lilac ram out of a black and white ewe. They both have beautiful birth fleeces and are friendly girls like their dam. We are enjoying seeing every ones lambs as they arrive and are looking forward to seeing more as the season progresses. This is such a fun time of year for the Jacob breeder. ?NOTE- There will be transport? to Indiana and possible surrounding areas for a reasonable fee in the June/July time frame for anyone interested in lambs. Mary Tonkin www.shadowmountainjacobs.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gotothewhip at aol.com Sat Feb 28 20:28:13 2009 From: gotothewhip at aol.com (gotothewhip at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:28:13 -0500 Subject: [Jacob-list] Komondor Dogs Message-ID: <8CB68241F839C4D-B24-87E@mblk-d27.sysops.aol.com> Does anyone here raise Kom's?? We are shopping for a LGD for our Jacobs, and this breed is one I have previously owned, and would prefer. Jennifer Tucler www.MooseMtnRanch.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: