From stcroft at ptd.net Tue Sep 2 12:37:09 2008 From: stcroft at ptd.net (Susan J Martin) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:37:09 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) Message-ID: <009b01c90d1a$24ba7500$20752c46@Ultra> I am looking for suggestions.....I have an 8 yr. old ewe who has been very thin since lambing with triplets this spring. I have attempted to improve her condition with diet but no avail. She does eat/graze but not as much - she was last wormed with Safeguard on July 11. She was tested in 2002 for OPP and was negative. She is deteriorating, is very thin, and is now confined in a lambing jug and walking in circles. She eats with gusto when I give her sweet feed. I have given her Vit. B, also Bo/Se and probiotics. Any ideas? Sue Stonecroft -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannah at knoxfarms.com Tue Sep 2 12:47:20 2008 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 12:47:20 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <009b01c90d1a$24ba7500$20752c46@Ultra> References: <009b01c90d1a$24ba7500$20752c46@Ultra> Message-ID: <52395.64.40.83.53.1220374040.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> Hello, I would suggest to worm her again with another type of wormer like cydectin or valbazen. July 11 was a long time ago. How is her conjunctiva and the color of her other membranes? We lost a doe who had triplets this year who had some of those same symptoms, but she died from conjestive heart failure. Hope she pulls through. Hk > I am looking for suggestions.....I have an 8 yr. old ewe who has been very > thin since lambing with triplets this spring. I have attempted to improve > her condition with diet but no avail. She does eat/graze but not as much > - she was last wormed with Safeguard on July 11. She was tested in 2002 > for OPP and was negative. She is deteriorating, is very thin, and is now > confined in a lambing jug and walking in circles. She eats with gusto > when I give her sweet feed. I have given her Vit. B, also Bo/Se and > probiotics. Any ideas? > Sue > Stonecroft > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From rlynde at onramp113.org Tue Sep 2 16:00:56 2008 From: rlynde at onramp113.org (Robin Lynde) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 13:00:56 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] thin ewe References: <009b01c90d1a$24ba7500$20752c46@Ultra> Message-ID: <003e01c90d36$9d579e90$6401a8c0@your4dacd0ea75> I just had a ewe put down and necropsied because she became emaciated without me ever knowing it. The ewes are all in good condition on pasture and one day I saw this one behind the others and she looked gaunt. When I got my hands on her and felt under 7 months of wool I realized that she was skin and bones. The vet had a few ideas, but no matter the problem the ewe wasn't going to be in any condition to breed and wasn't likely to stay in the flock. I could have the vet put her down and dig a hole or pay $100 for necropsy and get some info. The necropsy showed kidney failure. The pathologist and my vet explained that it was possibly due to an "overzealous response" to a previous infection--an antigen-antibody complex that builds up in the kidney. I tried to take notes while the vet was talking--that's the best I can explain it. When the vet first came out and we were talking about reasons for the ewe's condition she mentioned kidney failure and cancer as possibilities. Robin Lynde Meridian Jacobs Vacaville, CA www.meridianjacobs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan J Martin To: Sheep E-mail List Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 9:37 AM Subject: [Jacob-list] (no subject) I am looking for suggestions.....I have an 8 yr. old ewe who has been very thin since lambing with triplets this spring. I have attempted to improve her condition with diet but no avail. She does eat/graze but not as much - she was last wormed with Safeguard on July 11. She was tested in 2002 for OPP and was negative. She is deteriorating, is very thin, and is now confined in a lambing jug and walking in circles. She eats with gusto when I give her sweet feed. I have given her Vit. B, also Bo/Se and probiotics. Any ideas? Sue Stonecroft ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guschi73 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 12:31:02 2008 From: guschi73 at yahoo.com (Gooch) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 09:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] thin ewe Message-ID: <472302.50484.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Susan- does she have any teeth? I have one older ewe who just hasn't been gaining since lambing although I always see her out grazing & eating. I've done everything I could and no change in her condition. Imagine my surprise this weekend when I was out feeding animal crackers (trying to get a few shy ewes to come up) and she chomped on my fingers- and I realized there are no teeth! After watching her, I realized she is always going for the tender, small shoots of grass/weeds- nothing too tough that she has to rip. And she tends to take in long blades and "chew them in" whole. So now my dilemma is what to do with her. Our flock setup isn't conducive to feeding her special each day and she won't last long just getting hay for the winter. Anyone near WI have a retirement home for aged ewes? Shel ~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Asylum Farm ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aztreaz at earthlink.net Wed Sep 3 13:21:31 2008 From: aztreaz at earthlink.net (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:21:31 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Thin ewe Message-ID: <410-22008933172131609@earthlink.net> --Previous Message-- >I am looking for suggestions.....I have an 8 yr. old ewe who has been very thin since lambing with triplets this spring. I have attempted to >improve her condition with diet but no avail. She does eat/graze but not as much - she was last wormed with Safeguard on July 11. She >was tested in 2002 for OPP and was negative. She is deteriorating, is very thin, and is now confined in a lambing jug and walking in >circles. She eats with gusto when I give her sweet feed. I have given her Vit. B, also Bo/Se and probiotics. Any ideas? >Sue >Stonecroft ============ I also recommend another deworming with a different dewormer that was mentioned previously by Hannah. I use Ivermectin in the fall because it is a broad spectrum dewormer (except tapeworms) and botacide; but cydectin or valbazen might be better. We don't have parasite problems here, but it can be much worse in other parts of the country. Having triplets can be hard on an older ewe. My sheep never had triplets, but a friend of mine always supplements the triplets with milk replacer so that all the lambs get adequate nutrition and it helps take the pressure off the ewe. Also try feeding her alfalfa, it is a rich feed with lots of nutrients, especially calcium. Good luck, Cathy Moscow, Idaho From stcroft at ptd.net Wed Sep 3 18:42:10 2008 From: stcroft at ptd.net (Susan J Martin) Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 18:42:10 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Update on our thin ewe Message-ID: <002e01c90e16$4e9f4560$20752c46@Ultra> Here's an update on my thin ewe: The vet was here yesterday and examined Claire - her lungs and heart are fine, good bowel sounds. All her glands are normal, temp is normal, teeth are normal, she is very thin although the vet didn't consider her to be emaciated. A stool test for parasites was negative. The vet recommended that I give a B complex injection every day for 5 days, give this ewe all the sweet feed she wants, free feed alfalfa hay, dose her with propylene glycol twice daily and give her probiotics daily. The vet said the most concerning thing is the fact that when Claire moves she circles - she doesn't fall, isn't unsteady, but she circles counter clockwise which would indicate something neurological going on - perhaps a tumor near the spinal cord, etc. So I will continue doing all of the above -- I was doing all of the above anyway, but now I have spent a small fortune to have the vet validate it......and we'll see what happens. I also put one of Claire's lambs in with her for companionship - the vet seemed certain there isn't anything contagious going on here. Thankfully this vet (a young woman who didn't look a day over 18) has her own flock of Montadales, so has a personal interest in sheep -- most large animal vets here deal with dairy cows. Sue Stonecroft -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From beegal7 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 09:23:28 2008 From: beegal7 at yahoo.com (Meg Steensland) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 06:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] thin ewe In-Reply-To: <472302.50484.qm@web54503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <936195.70653.qm@web31503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Can you jug her and do something that looks like pig-slop (e.g. oatmeal)? --- On Wed, 9/3/08, Gooch wrote: From: Gooch Subject: [Jacob-list] thin ewe To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:31 PM Susan- does she have any teeth?? I have one older ewe who just hasn't been gaining since lambing although I always see her out grazing & eating.? I've done everything I could and no change in her condition.? Imagine my surprise this weekend when I was out feeding animal crackers (trying to get a few shy ewes to come up) and she chomped on my fingers- and I realized there are no teeth! After watching her, I realized she is always going for the tender, small shoots of grass/weeds- nothing too tough that she has to rip. And she tends to take in long blades and "chew them in" whole. So now my dilemma is what to do with her.? Our flock setup isn't conducive to feeding her special each day and she won't last long just getting hay for the winter.? Anyone near WI have a retirement home for aged ewes? ??? Shel ~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Asylum Farm ~ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guschi73 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 12:41:29 2008 From: guschi73 at yahoo.com (Gooch) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] thin ewe Message-ID: <429443.43791.qm@web54505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Susan- circling can indicate Listeriosis. Did the vet check for that? http://www.ansci.cornell.edu/sheep/research/csf/sops/health/listeriosis.html Shel ~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Goochland Acres ~ ~ Asylum Farm ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From guschi73 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 12:45:49 2008 From: guschi73 at yahoo.com (Gooch) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:45:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] ewe with no teeth Message-ID: <579946.42814.qm@web54504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I can for a little while, but unfortunately I'm not set up to deal with high-maintenance animals (no barn). Animals have to earn their keep and be low input or live elsewhere... She does fine with lamb pellets. We have some time until I have to do something with her- and with some rain finally the pastures will be growing some nice new grass so she'll have plenty of tender blades to munch. Shel ~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Goochland Acres ~ ~ Asylum Farm ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aztreaz at earthlink.net Thu Sep 4 12:59:40 2008 From: aztreaz at earthlink.net (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 09:59:40 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Thin ewe Message-ID: <410-22008944165940937@earthlink.net> >The vet said the most concerning thing is the fact that when Claire moves she circles - she doesn't fall, isn't unsteady, but she circles counter >clockwise which would indicate something neurological going on - ======== There was a case I recall where two ewes kept there head down, looking to the back and they moved in circles. I thought it could be polio (PEM) and it sounds like your vet thinks the same thing. Turns out both ewes died from listeriosis caused by bacteria from the sheep eating moldy feed or something moldy in the pasture. It is a problem where people are feeding those huge round bales of hay. I will read more about it and get back to you. You might find some info online. I checked in Laura Lawson's book (that isn't popular with SOME people on this list) and she mentions that the sheep walks in tight circles due to paralysis on one side. There are other symptoms too. One side of the face is affected causing the head to turn. There is excess drooling and a corner of the mouth droops. The sheep has a mild fever and diarrhea. The treatment is Procaine Penicillin G at high levels of 20,000 units per pound of body weight every 6 hours for 7 to 14 days then reduce this amount for another 14 days. Wow!! Due to the high amount of this antibiotic, I would definitely consult with the vet again. Also give plenty of water and electrolytes. She recommends vitamin B-Complex to stimulate the diet. Hope this helps, Cathy Moscow, Idaho From hannah at knoxfarms.com Thu Sep 4 13:46:24 2008 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 13:46:24 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Thin ewe In-Reply-To: <410-22008944165940937@earthlink.net> References: <410-22008944165940937@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <63215.64.40.83.53.1220550384.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> In addition to penG for paralysis, dexamethasone is a worthwile investment. I think its a prescription, though. >>The vet said the most concerning thing is the fact that when Claire moves > she circles - she doesn't fall, isn't unsteady, but she circles counter >>clockwise which would indicate something neurological going on - > ======== > There was a case I recall where two ewes kept there head down, looking to > the back and they moved in circles. I thought it could be polio (PEM) and > it sounds like your vet thinks the same thing. Turns out both ewes died > from listeriosis caused by bacteria from the sheep eating moldy feed or > something moldy in the pasture. It is a problem where people are feeding > those huge round bales of hay. I will read more about it and get back to > you. You might find some info online. > > I checked in Laura Lawson's book (that isn't popular with SOME people on > this list) and she mentions that the sheep walks in tight circles due to > paralysis on one side. There are other symptoms too. One side of the > face > is affected causing the head to turn. There is excess drooling and a > corner of the mouth droops. The sheep has a mild fever and diarrhea. The > treatment is Procaine Penicillin G at high levels of 20,000 units per > pound > of body weight every 6 hours for 7 to 14 days then reduce this amount for > another 14 days. Wow!! Due to the high amount of this antibiotic, I > would > definitely consult with the vet again. Also give plenty of water and > electrolytes. She recommends vitamin B-Complex to stimulate the diet. > > Hope this helps, > Cathy > Moscow, Idaho > > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From patchworkfibers at alltel.net Thu Sep 4 14:42:54 2008 From: patchworkfibers at alltel.net (Linda) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 14:42:54 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Thin ewe In-Reply-To: <410-22008933172131609@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <200894144254.319228@Linda-PC> Isn't circling a sign of listeriosis? Although I think that probably progresses faster than what you are seeing. Before worming again, I'd do a fecal check. Linda www.patchworkfibers.com Registered Jacob Sheep, Angora Rabbits, Handspun Yarn --Previous Message-- >I am looking for suggestions.....I have an 8 yr. old ewe who has been very thin since lambing with triplets this spring. I have attempted to >improve her condition with diet but no avail. She does eat/graze but not as much - she was last wormed with Safeguard on July 11. She >was tested in 2002 for OPP and was negative. She is deteriorating, is very thin, and is now confined in a lambing jug and walking in >circles. She eats with gusto when I give her sweet feed. I have given her Vit. B, also Bo/Se and probiotics. Any ideas? >Sue >Stonecroft ============ I also recommend another deworming with a different dewormer that was mentioned previously by Hannah. I use Ivermectin in the fall because it is a broad spectrum dewormer (except tapeworms) and botacide; but cydectin or valbazen might be better. We don't have parasite problems here, but it can be much worse in other parts of the country. Having triplets can be hard on an older ewe. My sheep never had triplets, but a friend of mine always supplements the triplets with milk replacer so that all the lambs get adequate nutrition and it helps take the pressure off the ewe. Also try feeding her alfalfa, it is a rich feed with lots of nutrients, especially calcium. Good luck, Cathy Moscow, Idaho _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stcroft at ptd.net Thu Sep 4 15:19:58 2008 From: stcroft at ptd.net (Susan J Martin) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2008 15:19:58 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Thin ewe Message-ID: <004301c90ec3$38d3dc70$20752c46@Ultra> Several have you have emailed suggesting listeriosis as a possible cause for our thin ewe, Claire, due to her symptom of circling. The vet did not think that was the case since Claire has no fever, shows no paralysis, no facial drooping, no one sided weakness, no one sided reflex response of her eyes, etc........this sheep is normal in every way except for being exceptionally thin and when moving she circles. I had asked the vet about listeriosis but she said there would most likely be the other symptoms mentioned above - not just the circling. Have any of you experienced listeriosis? Also, the fecals on Claire were negative. As mentioned before, the vet thought perhaps a tumor near the spinal cord, etc. She hasn't worsened and perhaps has improved slightly. I am now in the process of teaching my husband to do the Vit. B injections as I will be out of town for a few days -- he's not too thrilled about adding this skill to his job description!!!! Sue Stonecroft -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannah at knoxfarms.com Wed Sep 17 13:15:44 2008 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills Message-ID: <51676.64.40.83.53.1221671744.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> I am on a hunt for the absolute best custom mill. I live in NC, but am willing to try out-of-state places. Thanks! Hk -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From ACAMDA at aol.com Wed Sep 17 16:13:27 2008 From: ACAMDA at aol.com (ACAMDA at aol.com) Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:13:27 EDT Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills Message-ID: Hannah - I've been very happy with MacAusland Woolen Mills on Prince Edward Island for blankets. Unless you have 300 pounds though, they will mix "a little" of someone else's wool in with your to make a full batch. Zeilinger Wool in Michigan was good for roving and batting. I tried Georgia Mountain Fibers in Blue Ridge, but they specialize in llama and alpaca and will only do sheep fiber if it is already washed. I've seen theirs and it seems they do a good job, but the last time I tried to wash fiber I ended up with one giant ball of lint, so I think I'll stick with someone who'll do it for me. Hope this helps. Kathey in Georgia **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From BISCHOW at aol.com Thu Sep 18 12:34:06 2008 From: BISCHOW at aol.com (BISCHOW at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:34:06 EDT Subject: [Jacob-list] Fiber Mill Message-ID: I had a HUGE accumulation of wool processed at the Texas Fiber Mill. They do a very nice job, and now I am much more likely to get those braided rugs done! Louise... In a message dated 9/18/2008 10:16:02 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com writes: Send Jacob-list mailing list submissions to jacob-list at jacobsheep.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com You can reach the person managing the list at jacob-list-owner at jacobsheep.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Jacob-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Custom Mills (Hannah) 2. Re: Custom Mills (ACAMDA at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hannah" Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills To: "jacob-list" Message-ID: <51676.64.40.83.53.1221671744.squirrel at kit.rc4systems.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I am on a hunt for the absolute best custom mill. I live in NC, but am willing to try out-of-state places. Thanks! Hk -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:13:27 EDT From: ACAMDA at aol.com Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills To: hannah at knoxfarms.com, jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hannah - I've been very happy with MacAusland Woolen Mills on Prince Edward Island for blankets. Unless you have 300 pounds though, they will mix "a little" of someone else's wool in with your to make a full batch. Zeilinger Wool in Michigan was good for roving and batting. I tried Georgia Mountain Fibers in Blue Ridge, but they specialize in llama and alpaca and will only do sheep fiber if it is already washed. I've seen theirs and it seems they do a good job, but the last time I tried to wash fiber I ended up with one giant ball of lint, so I think I'll stick with someone who'll do it for me. Hope this helps. Kathey in Georgia **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list End of Jacob-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 ***************************************** **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hettick1 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 18 14:29:15 2008 From: hettick1 at yahoo.com (Heather Hettick) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 11:29:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200636.54241.qm@web51404.mail.re2.yahoo.com> We have a really nice mill locally - Morningstar Fiber mill in Applecreek, OH. I've toured their place and seen their products and they really look incredibly nice. http://www.morningstarfiber.com/fiber_processing.htm They specialize in dual coated fleeces and offer dehairing as an option which Jacob fleeces wouldn't need, but they do make nice roving and yarn - an felt too. I havne't used them yet because they are expensive, but I'd like to try a few fleeces through them. Heather Hettick Moonstruck Farm Creston, OH From guschi73 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 18 15:42:58 2008 From: guschi73 at yahoo.com (Gooch) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Wool mills Message-ID: <366431.49071.qm@web54501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You can also send fiber to Jane Zeien at Illinois Wool & Fiber Mill in Belvidere, IL. They can process most fibers. They are a very nice family operated custom mill. http://www.ilwoolfibermill.com/ Shel ~*~*~*~*~*~ ~ Goochland Acres ~ ~ Asylum Farm ~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gotothewhip at aol.com Thu Sep 18 15:47:21 2008 From: gotothewhip at aol.com (gotothewhip at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:47:21 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Fiber Mill In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAE7DE7FCFD14E-83C-C5C@FWM-M04.sysops.aol.com> A BIG ditto to Texas Fiber Mill.. Deb is now a Jacob Breeder too!? She bought a ram and ewe from me, and they were just shipped to her last month.... She bought a VERY fine fleeced 2 horn ram of my foundation breeding, and a ewe lamb by one of my foundation ewes, and sired by a Broken O ram (On my website "Isabella's 08 ewe") SO if nothing else she is THRILLED to see Jacob wool thru her mill! Jennifer Tucker www.MooseMtnRanch.com -----Original Message----- From: BISCHOW at aol.com To: jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Sent: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:34 am Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Fiber Mill I had a HUGE accumulation of wool processed at the Texas Fiber Mill.? They do a very nice job, and now I am much more likely to get those braided rugs done! ? Louise... ? In a message dated 9/18/2008 10:16:02 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com writes: Send Jacob-list mailing list submissions to ? ? jacob-list at jacobsheep.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ? ? http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ? ? jacob-list-request at jacobsheep.com You can reach the person managing the list at ? ? jacob-list-owner at jacobsheep.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Jacob-list digest..." Today's Topics: ?? 1. Custom Mills (Hannah) ?? 2. Re: Custom Mills (ACAMDA at aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 13:15:44 -0400 (EDT) From: "Hannah" Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills To: "jacob-list" Message-ID: <51676.64.40.83.53.1221671744.squirrel at kit.rc4systems.net> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 I am on a hunt for the absolute best custom mill.? I live in NC, but am willing to try out-of-state places. Thanks! Hk -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2008 16:13:27 EDT From: ACAMDA at aol.com Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills To: hannah at knoxfarms.com, jacob-list at jacobsheep.com Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hannah - I've been very happy with MacAusland Woolen Mills on Prince Edward Island? for blankets.? Unless you have 300 pounds though, they will mix "a little"? of someone else's wool in with your to make a full batch. Zeilinger Wool in Michigan was good for roving and batting.? I tried Georgia Mountain Fibers in Blue Ridge, but they? specialize in llama and alpaca and will only do sheep fiber if it is already? washed.? I've seen theirs and it seems they do a good job, but the last? time I tried to wash fiber I ended up with one giant ball of lint, so I think? I'll stick with someone who'll do it for me. Hope this helps. Kathey in Georgia **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.? ? ? (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ; ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list End of Jacob-list Digest, Vol 49, Issue 4 ***************************************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aztreaz at earthlink.net Thu Sep 18 15:54:33 2008 From: aztreaz at earthlink.net (ARTHUR PARTRIDGE) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:54:33 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills Message-ID: <410-220089418195433281@earthlink.net> I am also looking for a new mill. We have an excellent fiber mill near Spokane, WA, but I am on a waiting list until next spring. They have so much fiber that they can't take anymore. They are expensive, but do excellent work. So now I am looking for another place. Hopefully, one that will tolerate some VM (veggie matter) in the fleeces. I pick out as much as I can. I don't coat my sheep. Cathy Moscow, Idaho From stcroft at ptd.net Thu Sep 18 20:00:12 2008 From: stcroft at ptd.net (Susan J Martin) Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:00:12 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Garlic Barrier Message-ID: <013c01c919ea$b09a1760$20752c46@Ultra> Garlic Barrier was mentioned on this list for parasite control. Just curious - how many of you have used this product for your sheep or goats? How often per year do you administer Garlic Barrier? Is if effective against parasites in lambs? What have the overall results been in your flock? Do you drench your sheep or put it with feed? Do you also use conventional wormers, or only Garlic Barrier? Any information would be appreciated. Sue Martin Stonecroft -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hannah at knoxfarms.com Fri Sep 19 07:47:55 2008 From: hannah at knoxfarms.com (Hannah) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 07:47:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Garlic Barrier In-Reply-To: <013c01c919ea$b09a1760$20752c46@Ultra> References: <013c01c919ea$b09a1760$20752c46@Ultra> Message-ID: <63655.64.40.83.53.1221824875.squirrel@kit.rc4systems.net> I've had my sheep for a couple of months and I have been using Hoegger's Herbal Wormer. The thing that you have to remember is that the purpose of the herbal wormer is to maintain a healthy digestive tract and parasite load, not to immediately kill all the worms. I use chemical wormer about once a year. I would be interested, though if you use powdered or clove garlic when using it against parasites. > Garlic Barrier was mentioned on this list for parasite control. Just > curious - how many of you have used this product for your sheep or goats? > How often per year do you administer Garlic Barrier? Is if effective > against parasites in lambs? What have the overall results been in your > flock? Do you drench your sheep or put it with feed? Do you also use > conventional wormers, or only Garlic Barrier? Any information would be > appreciated. > Sue Martin > Stonecroft > > _______________________________________________ > Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks > Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list > -- Knox Farms All Natural Goat's Milk Soaps Heritage Breed Livestock and Some That We Just Like Say NO! to National Animal ID System! http://nonais.org Member Friends of Traditional Farming http://fotfarm.org Blog blog.knoxfarms.com From honeybucket at comcast.net Fri Sep 19 20:10:24 2008 From: honeybucket at comcast.net (Patty B) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 17:10:24 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills In-Reply-To: <410-220089418195433281@earthlink.net> References: <410-220089418195433281@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <032501c91ab5$47ab6f30$0300a8c0@coyotebook> Fantasy Fibers in Canby, Oregon, just south of Portland, does a great job. She handles a lot of Jacob wool from the local Jacob growers. She can get roving back in about 2-3 months or less. Yarn takes a bit longer. I would definitely recommend them. Patty Berke Flying Coyote Farm Olympia WA PS I'm not sure this will get to the entire list since I don't know how to respond correctly---can you make this happen?? -----Original Message----- From: jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com [mailto:jacob-list-bounces at jacobsheep.com] On Behalf Of ARTHUR PARTRIDGE Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 12:55 PM To: jacob-list Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills I am also looking for a new mill. We have an excellent fiber mill near Spokane, WA, but I am on a waiting list until next spring. They have so much fiber that they can't take anymore. They are expensive, but do excellent work. So now I am looking for another place. Hopefully, one that will tolerate some VM (veggie matter) in the fleeces. I pick out as much as I can. I don't coat my sheep. Cathy Moscow, Idaho _______________________________________________ Jacob-list mailing list, sponsored by Swallow Lane Farm & Fiberworks Jacob-list at jacobsheep.com http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/jacob-list From snielsen at orednet.org Sat Sep 20 17:19:31 2008 From: snielsen at orednet.org (snielsen at orednet.org) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] Custom Mills In-Reply-To: <032501c91ab5$47ab6f30$0300a8c0@coyotebook> References: <410-220089418195433281@earthlink.net> <032501c91ab5$47ab6f30$0300a8c0@coyotebook> Message-ID: <49297.198.177.27.28.1221945571.squirrel@shemp.dialoregon.net> On Fri, September 19, 2008 5:10 pm, Patty B said: > Fantasy Fibers in Canby, Oregon, just south of Portland, does a great job. > She handles a lot of Jacob wool from the local Jacob growers. She can get > roving back in about 2-3 months or less. Yarn takes a bit longer. I > would > definitely recommend them. Yes, Fantasy Fibers does an excellent job. The wool you send must be clean to go through the mill. If it is not, Janelle will wash it for you. I forget the rate for washing. It really messes with a mill's machinery to run greasy or soiled fiber through, and their investment is far greater than the cost to you of having them clean the fiber, if needed. Fantasy Fibers also has a de-hairer that works well as a VM picker. You lose some weight/volume overall to the process, but the wool comes out beautiful. Susan -- See our farm blog at http://skepweaver.wordpress.com/ -- Peace also takes courage. From info at brenalanfarm.com Tue Sep 23 11:34:45 2008 From: info at brenalanfarm.com (Brenalan Farm) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 08:34:45 -0700 Subject: [Jacob-list] Ram lamb avail @ OFFF Message-ID: <056001c91d91$ebb9de20$0a00a8c0@searlecece725f> Hi, everyone- I just wanted to let you know that this ram lamb is available and will be travelling to the Oregon Flock and Fiber Festival this weekend, along with some yearling ewes and ewe lambs. The link below will take you to pics of him and a close-up of his fleece. Hope to see you there. http://www.brenalanfarm.com/mickey.html Brenda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From perfectspot at bellsouth.net Wed Sep 24 06:55:06 2008 From: perfectspot at bellsouth.net (Cathy Robinson) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:55:06 -0400 Subject: [Jacob-list] Lambs for Sale Message-ID: <48DA1C8A.5010006@bellsouth.net> We have three ewe lambs and a very nice two-horned ram lamb available and for sale in western NC, where by the way, it is finally feeling like fall!! All can be viewed at: http://www.patchworkfibers.com/PerfectSpotForSale.html All do exhibit the tint of the red clay from the lot they prefer to sleep in at night, but it does wash out!! :-) We will be attending the Southeastern Animal Fiber Fair (SAFF) in Asheville October 24-26. The sheep will not be be there, but can be delivered to the site at any time during the week-end for pickup if prior arrangements are made. Thanks! Cathy http://www.patchworkfibers.com/perfectspotfarm.html From castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com Wed Sep 24 14:53:09 2008 From: castlerockjacobs at yahoo.com (Victoria da Roza) Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 11:53:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Jacob-list] [jacob-sheep] Lambs for Sale In-Reply-To: <48DA1C8A.5010006@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <980004.67705.qm@web57002.mail.re3.yahoo.com> If you are in the Western U.S. , I am selling my flock. My husband's M.S. has gotten to the point that I have less and less time. The last time I tried to do something with the sheep I fell again on my bad knee and reripped it so I am just not at the age I can run around after them. They have Pennsylvania and Oregon breeding as well as California breeding so should cross nicely with local sheep. I have 8 ewes and 1 wether and 2 ram lambs and they start at $125. This is right in time for the breeding season. They are 2 horn and 4 horn and I was breeding for really nice wool and the correct markings. (925) 930-6747. Victoria Castle Rock Farm Jacob Sheep & Nigerian Dwarf Goats www.castlerockfarm.net Walnut Creek, Calif. "Do not go where the path might lead But go instead where there is no path and leave a trail"