[Jacob-list] Re: Herding with Jacobs

[Shannon Phifer]

I think it is because Jacob's tend to "get it" faster
than other breeds of sheep.  This applies to
everything :)  When I am looking for a Jacob to add to
my herding flock, I look for a mild temperment that is
not confrontational or high strung.  I have found that
it is better to have an older wether/ewe that is dog
broke and then add lambs.  The lambs will follow the
older sheep and within a couple days the lambs are dog
broke.    

Shannon
www.kenleigh-acres.com

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> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Shannon Phifer <kenleighacres at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Re: Herding with Jacobs
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> Hi!  Yes, I train all types of herding dogs on our
> Jacob Sheep.  I have a small flock that is for this
> purpose only and the rest of our Jacobs are herded
> with our Border Collies.  If you know what you are
> doing to begin with, they make great herding sheep. 
> They flock together reasonably well and are dog
> broke
> rather easily.  By "dog broke" I mean that they
> flock
> to a person when the dog is working them.  When you
> are starting a new dog, or puppy, you definitely
> want
> to have dog broke sheep.  I teach 3 herding classes
> a
> week and the jacobs are the only sheep I have for
> this
> - they have been worked by dogs ranging from
> Shelties
> to Rottweilers.  My students laugh that my sheep are
> trained better than most of their dogs :)  I have
> one
> group that will come when I call them, even with a
> dog
> sitting right next to me.  If your friend has
> questions, they are more than welcome to send an
> e-mail.
> 
> Thanks,
> Shannon Phifer
> www.kenleigh-acres.com
>   
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:07:08 -0400
> From: "Neal and Louise Grose" <nlgrose at yadtel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] Re: Herding with Jacobs
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> I lent my brother some older Jacob whethers to train
> some young Border 
> Collies. Bad idea. Dog goes in pasture, sheep bowl
> down sister-in-law to get 
> away from dogs. That is the idea, isn't it?
> 
> Must have "dog broke" sheep.
> 
> Neal
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shannon Phifer" <kenleighacres at yahoo.com>
> To: <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 11:39 AM
> Subject: [Jacob-list] Re: Herding with Jacobs
> 
> 
> > Hi!  Yes, I train all types of herding dogs on our
> > Jacob Sheep.  I have a small flock that is for
> this
> > purpose only and the rest of our Jacobs are herded
> > with our Border Collies.  If you know what you are
> > doing to begin with, they make great herding
> sheep.
> > They flock together reasonably well and are dog
> broke
> > rather easily.  By "dog broke" I mean that they
> flock
> > to a person when the dog is working them.  When
> you
> > are starting a new dog, or puppy, you definitely
> want
> > to have dog broke sheep.  I teach 3 herding
> classes a
> > week and the jacobs are the only sheep I have for
> this
> > - they have been worked by dogs ranging from
> Shelties
> > to Rottweilers.  My students laugh that my sheep
> are
> > trained better than most of their dogs :)  I have
> one
> > group that will come when I call them, even with a
> dog
> > sitting right next to me.  If your friend has
> > questions, they are more than welcome to send an
> > e-mail.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Shannon Phifer
> > www.kenleigh-acres.com
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:21:22 -0700
> From: "ARTHUR PARTRIDGE" <aztreaz at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Jacob-list] COB?
> To: "jacob-list" <jacob-list at jacobsheep.com>
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> >I use a good mineral mix and put out the
> nutritional tubs from Blue Seal
> when needed. 
> =============
> What are 'nutritional tubs' from Blue Seal?  What is
> Blue Seal?  I live in
> Idaho, never heard of it.  I think I use an
> equivalent, called Livestock
> Blend, a complete feed in pellets plus has some corn
> kernels, from Lands
> O'Lakes Co.  The feed has vitamins, minerals,
> calcium, protein, etc, they
> removed all copper to make it safe for sheep.  There
> is some molasses.  It
> costs $6.50 for 50 lbs.  During late gestation and
> for lambs and nursing
> ewes I add some oats.  I also feed it to the llama
> and two goats.  I don't
> feed COB, but this is close.
> Cathy
> Moscow, Idaho
> Our local mill burned down, they decided not to
> rebuild
>   
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:42:35 -0400
> From: Linda <patchworkfibers at alltel.net>
> Subject: Re: [Jacob-list] COB?
> To: <aztreaz at earthlink.net>,          jacob-list
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> I think Blue Seal is in a pretty small area.  I have
> to drive 70 miles to get the tubs, but I only go
> every 
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