[AGL] Bob Dylan show Dec. 2019

[Michael Eisenstadt]

So what would you suggest? Abolish private cars and the trucks that 
deliver everything?

On 9/17/2020 10:57 AM, Frances Morey wrote:
> My favorite poem of the day...
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw5KQMXDiM4 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nw5KQMXDiM4>
>
> Best,
> Frances
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 10:41 AM Charles Loving <lovingigor at gmail.com 
> <mailto:lovingigor at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     *Make the Planet Great Again.*
>     *"Our future is being taken away."*
>     *Does Green mean less pollution?*
>     *The oil people propaganda machine may be working overtime but
>     there is a series on Al Jeezera that shows in pictures the problem
>     with the green idea.*
>     *
>     *
>     *Look at the electric car for one. It is touted as the vehicle of
>     the future. But it uses a plethora of rare metals. Not to say
>     gas-driven cars don't. The electric car isn't so innocent.*
>     **
>     *You will find 175 pounds of copper in the car.*
>     *Magnesium for the seats*
>     *Yttrium for the sensors*
>     *Tungsten for the chassis*
>     *Neodymium in the headlights*
>     *Lanthanum in the mirrors*
>     *Germanium for night vision*
>     *Ceram in the windscreen*
>     *Just those batteries use a lot of rare metals. And over time
>     those batteries will die and have to be thrown away or recycled.*
>     *Plus you will need Bismuth and Tantatuim *
>     *
>     *
>     *All these metals and compounds are rare metals. China has 75% of
>     these metals. There are other sources of course where you find
>     mines. Mines that are destroying the countryside around them.*
>     *
>     *
>     *Mining causes disastrous pollution. Heavy metals are dumped into
>     streams. There are millions of gallons of polluted wastewater,
>     contaminated with Flourine, Mercury, and other heavy metals that
>     are dumped or stored in ponds where the contaminates leach into
>     the water table. *
>     *
>     *
>     *The air suffers from dust created which is also saturated. The
>     demand for copper has increased. Chuquicamata in Chie produced
>     470,000 tons last year alone from a mine that is a half-mile deep
>     and 2 and a half miles wide. The scene is one of devastation. The
>     mine uses millions of gallons of water in a desert where it hasn't
>     recorded rain in 500 years. The closest city is a four-hour drive.
>     The population of 200,000 suffer from lung disease. 10% have some
>     sort of cardio problems or cancer due to heavy metal pollution.*
>     **
>     *The demand for different kinds of metal increased by 25% just
>     last year.*
>     *
>     *
>     *A wind machine uses 20 tons of aluminum and 500 tons of steel
>     plus copper and rare metals. According to some of the professors
>     and experts on the problem, they do not see wind and solar as a
>     solution. The mining causes more demand and more pollution of the
>     landscape as well as the air. And added to that is that the
>     devices wear out over time and have to be replaced. So far there
>     has been little or no effort to recycle wind turbines or solar
>     cells. They are just added to the landfill.*
>     *
>     *
>     *Norway we are told is the leader in the world of using
>     renewables. Their government ignores the ecological impact
>     elsewhere since it doesn't happen in Norway.*
>     *
>     *
>     *So as we turn toward green are we just causing a new disaster?*
>     *It would seem so to me.*
>
>     On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:56 AM Michael Eisenstadt
>     <eisenstadt0 at gmail.com <mailto:eisenstadt0 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMFyFmjsLzI
>         <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMFyFmjsLzI>
>
>         I found this very recent Bob Dylan show by accident from just
>         last year.
>
>         It is like a Grateful Dead show which kinda grows on you.
>         Check it out
>         if you dig Dylan.
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     Charlie Loving
>

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