[AGL] channelling Obama

[michele mason]

Hi Mike,

And with my 2¢, we have 4 (and Pakistan). I agree in large part. The  
only thing I didn't know was that the Taliban wouldn't want alqaida  
setting up again, although it makes sense. I feel there may be some  
variables about our relationship with the Afghans and "tender  
mercies" may make the opposite easier to say, but the idea, as is,  
will give me some time to see "how the worm does turn". Even tho  
we're pretty sure the direction—I have been surprised a time, or 2.

As for the dear twisted children, around the world, I think that's  
gonna happen anyway. Its the terribly deprived v our often spoiled,  
self-centered brood who should be drafted into the Peace Corps when  
one foot leaves useful education. Too much time on their hands/ Idle  
hands are the devil's workshop thing. A dose of hard work and doing  
good may untwist more than a few. I agree with you, but I think we  
must do what we can. I'm glad they need more training than less since  
many may be turned away—too soft, or suspicion, whatever. I have most  
often agreed with the VP, who has been there many, many times.  
However, as you say, many of us knew what had to be done to get  
elected. I'm not quite that stupid, nor did I not understand the  
cartoon. I suppose its so serious to me that a smile is hard won and  
any comparison to georgie amounts to lard. He, I'll bet, never  
communicated with himself. No second thoughts unless the profit grew  
in cash.

I did enjoy the Brit's decision about "bonuses". I enjoyed our bit  
yesterday. I haven't figured out how the greedy will attempt to screw  
it around. I haven't had time, but its clear to me that Wall St. is  
the enemy. I also see most of the US Senate as scarier for me than  
the young terrorists—at the moment. Talk about unbelievably stupid  
and eventually placing the entire world in a state of shoulder- to-  
shoulder madness in climate change. Passing health reform may keep me  
alive long enough to see a better world IF we can get past their  
idiocy/lies. Besides, its part of the overall plan to grow the  
economy. That's why I write and call them (and strangers) and annoy  
the Sen. as often as possible. I know how little it gets, but its  
something. If everyone would do something—$ if they can—just maybe it  
will save a few lives and much misery. AND, we can get on with edu.,  
technology and jobs. But health has to come first, or it won't  
happen. I want the Pres. to pound on something and yell, "Don't you  
get it? Here's the plan again. Oh, and you're being lied to. . .  
remember?
Anyway, I've run out of strength. No doubt, many are grateful, so  
others may carry on. If I rest for a half hr, or so, maybe I can  
clean some of the kitchen.

Have a lovely week-end,  mm

On Dec 12, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:


> Michele,

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> Speaking as an Obama voter, i found the notion of Obama

> voters holding a private conversation with him in their head

> tres funny, and psychologically insightful. The cartoonist

> then varied this theme by having Obama have a private

> conversation with himself in his head.

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> As for what to do, Obama (and the rest of us are screwed)

> as we are already in Afghanistan. I knew and Obama knew and

> multi gente likewise knew that Obama to get elected had to

> embrace/accept one of our wars or not stand a chance in

> hell of getting elected. And lest he lose a great deal of

> support he could not do in Afghanistan what he probably

> wants to do: exit gracefully and leave the Afghans to the

> tender mercies of the Taliban who would promptly take

> over.

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> Here's an interesting point which is being brought up.

> The longer we are in Afghanistan, the more we will be

> raising up home-grown jihadists in the Moslem population

> of this country (total unknown; in the millions). The

> Feds have been catching them but sooner or later one

> of them will get lucky and do something monstrous on

> the home ground. It turns out one cannot learn practically

> how to do nasty stuff by downloading a manual from the

> Internet. One has to have on-hands training, which is

> done in al-qaida training camps in Pakistan.

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> VP Biden (and others) advise a swift departure from

> Afghanistan in the hope that the Taliban will not permit

> al-qaida to re-establish training camps in country. If they

> do, we have drones and special forces which would

> have to do special operations on those camps. And

> of course there is the problem of Pakistan.

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> just my 2 cents

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> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "michele mason" <m_11 at att.net>

> To: "Frances Morey" <frances_morey at yahoo.com>; "survivors'  

> reminiscences

> about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s" <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

> Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:31 PM

> Subject: Re: [AGL] channelling Obama

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> To Mike, also. "Tres funny"? Funny, I didn't even smile.

> Tell me, if you have the time, what, EXACTLY, and HOW, EXACTLY, you

> would make and take, the next step? I agree, its horrible beyond

> measure. We could run away again, how many x, after promising we

> would help the Kerds when they were bio-bombed; the up-rising,

> resulting in a massive slaughter, hand over the helpless to the

> Taliban, so they could rid another 7 yr old of her hand for playing

> with a ball(?) Yes, I know its everywhere and we can't be. We could

> stop with Darfur (i don't know how to spell that either) where the

> multi-rapes are followed by blow-torching and full-term babies must

> be eaten by their mothers; repeat?

> Can you imagine that my guts aren't ripped out every time a soldier

> falls—that I don't cry for hours for their loved ones and the life

> each probably deserved? If not, then you don't know me. But, what

> would I do and how would I handle it? I don't know. I guess I'm not

> smart enough, not holy enough to make a decision from tons of info I

> don't have. Well, I'm sorry, I really am sorry. I wish I could stop

> it all and I'm angry about hidden agendas and greed—so very angry! I

> just can't locate that easy answer w/o finding bags of complications,

> hidden underneath.

> Let's face it—you have a friend (that's 1 thing about me, when I say

> you have a friend, it means loyalty in agreement and out)—who is too

> stupid to solve the issues. Nope, I didn't find any humor at all,

> sorry again.  mm

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