[AGL] Fw: re promoting the RagBlog Web site on AGL

[thorne dreyer]

Mike, this is silly.  You are probably the only person in the world who considers the Rag Blog sectarian.  And my point wasn't that my connection to the Ghetto is greater than yours; I was reacting to your presumption that I knew nothing about it.
I wasn't just an angry sdser in the early sixties; I was into theater and the arts, I ate that peyote -- though I tried to disquise it!, spent hours and hours drinking Chuck Wagon "coffee," went to the weekly folksing in the Union, thought Fontaine Maverick was very cute...  Though I never made love at the Ghetto.  Not that I remember.
Mike, I like you. You're very smart.  I enjoy talking with you.  And if I said something about you on the Ragstaff list, I'm sorry.  But it's not exactly like you try to be liked; seems just the opposite; that you thrive on rejection.  And I know you believe that your opinions aren't listened to and respected; but again, it seems to me that you close your mind to anyone who disagrees with you.
And it's too easy to assume that those who oppose you are simply anti-Semitic.  One does not have to be a Holocaust-denying klansman to disagree with you about Israel and the Middle East.  
Maybe it's not a good idea, but I'm just telling you how I feel.  
Thorne


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Eisenstadt <mike.eisenstadt at gmail.com>
To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:53:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] Fw: re promoting the RagBlog Web site on AGL

mean spirited? not compared to what you said about me on
the Ragstaff maillist.

puffing your RagBlog which is sectarian and excludes voices
other than your own is not appropriate here.

now you are more a ghettoista than moi. what next?

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Feel free to die or to migrate?
Mike, this is all rather mean-spirited.
A minute ago you were giving me a history lesson and saying I should go off
the list because I was ignorant of the ghetto and it's legacy. Now, as it
turns out I have just as much connection to the Ghetto as you have, maybe
more, the reason changes: The Rag Blog is sectarian.
I'm confused.
Thorne



----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Eisenstadt <mike.eisenstadt at gmail.com>
To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:34:00 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] Fw: re promoting the RagBlog Web site on AGL

many of the folks named below have died or migrated to Fontaine's
converstation pit. please feel free to do so as well.

if you have something of your own that you have composed yourself
rather than endless lists of www.www.net references to articles other
people have written, please feel free to post them here.

promotion of your RagBlog Web site which is edited in a narrow
sectarian way and which excludes opinions other than yours is not
appropriate here.

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Mike,
I know what the Ghetto was. I was there many times. I had good friends who
lived there -- Clark Santos, Mike Hanks, Roger Baker. I went to Ghetto
parties. Tary Owens was a dear friend and associate. Over the years friends
and colleagues have included Jack Jackson, Billy Lee Brammer, Jim Baldauf,
(Billy) Jim Strong, Bob Simmons, Byron Black, David McQueen, Stephanie
Chernikowsi, Wayne and Honor Johnson, Ed Guinn, Houston White, Vickie Lynn
Devereaux. Those come to mind. I believe at least some of them lived in the
Ghetto complex. I knew Fontaine and Kathy Doyle and Pepi Plowman and others
then, though I know them better now.


      
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