[AGL] !Re: LBJ and Walter....

Kathy kdoyle1 at austin.rr.com
Tue Jul 17 10:55:56 EDT 2007


thank you Gerry, I believe you're right, and as usual well put. of
course cheney and Rove are the brains and power currently.
Kathy
On Jul 17, 2007, at 10:32 AM, Gerry wrote:


> Kathy,

> You said: And compared to Bush and

> cronies he seems extremely wholesome, straight forward and honest.

> Like a Jimmy Stewart movie.

>

> LBJ was a vulgar monster who left many a disillusioned victim in

> his wake,

> and quite a few corpses as well. Jimmy Stewart? Come on! He was a

> superb

> politician who knew which asses to kiss and which to kick. He was the

> champion of big oil and big construction. Haliburton is typical of

> the type

> of company he helped to create. Good for Texas? Yeah, if you are in

> the oil

> business. While it is true that some of his policies paid off for

> the poor,

> the trade-off was not without consequences. He had no ideological

> base,

> posing as a liberal when it was convenient and as a racist when he

> needed

> southern support. He and his cronies stole the first radio station

> (now

> called KLBJ) and used political power to steal quite a few of the

> early TV

> stations in Texas (by strong-arming the competition).

>

> I suggest you read some of the many books about him before praising

> him.

> "The Path to Power" by Robert A. Caro is an excellent Texas history

> which

> should be required reading in Texas schools. "Means of Ascent"

> portrays his

> early senatorial contests. "Master of the Senate" takes us up to his

> presidency. Read these books and then make your judgment.

>

> While it is difficult to damn him completely due to some of the

> good works

> he accomplished, praising him unconditionally is quite naive. He

> was a power

> mad monster who ended up as a self-loathing, broken man who committed

> gradual suicide after his retirement (and loss of power).

>

> While her legacy now seems to outstrip his, he treated Lady Bird

> like a dog,

> often embarrassing her publicly and without apparent remorse. The

> remarkable

> thing is that she put up with it.

>

> Compared to Bush? No contest, LBJ was highly intelligent and ran

> his own

> ship, down to the tiniest details. He was a poor boy who became

> wealthy and

> schemed his way to success. As a politician Bush couldn't shine his

> shoes.

> Let us not forget that Cheney is the real power in the Bush white

> house. You

> might compare him to LBJ but not W.

> G

>

>

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: "Kathy" <kdoyle1 at austin.rr.com>

> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

> Cc: <ghetto2 at two.pairlist.net>

> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 12:57 AM

> Subject: [AGL] LBJ and Walter....

>

>

>> Hmm, now a story I heard, from people now dead, is that LBJ had an

>> illegitimate son, Rodney, by his secretary (?) and he sent him to

>> live with a rich gay pedophile friend? relative? living off

>> Enfield. I did know Rodney. He was one of the early aids victims.

>> And he did look a lot like LBJ, but he moved and talked a little

>> swishy, or sort of valley girl. Try and picture that. Anyway, what

>> if LBJ had a hunger for men as well as women and he and Walter

>> actually had a "Brokeback Mountain" kind of relationship- that would

>> explain why he had to cut Walter off so abruptly and coldly when the

>> scandal broke and also how he came to be so close to Rodneys's

>> guardian or whatever he was. Well, it seems far fetched-what a can of

>> worms if it were true- but the pre dawn hours are good for wild

>> tales of love, lust and betrayal.

>>

>> no matter, I did greatly respect Lady Bird, and am so grateful for

>> her development of town lake and her wild flowers. By promoting

>> beauty and healthy environments and saving and propagating plants, in

>> her own way she was giving peace a chance, and her beautiful legacy

>> endures . I also am grateful to LBH for the good that he did Texas

>> and the nation, despite the damn war. And compared to Bush and

>> cronies he seems extremely wholesome, straight forward and honest.

>> Like a Jimmy Stewart movie.

>>

>> Do you think Laura will try to replant any of the orchards and

>> fields her husband and his cronies have blown up and poisoned?

>>

>> here's an intriguing link about Walter Jenkins, bless his heart. If

>> he had 6 children, he would be bi sexual not homosexual right? Why

>> did his daughter have a different last name, was that her married

>> name?

>>

>> http://home.nyc.rr.com/alweisel/outwalterjenkins.htm

>>

>> Kathy

>>

>> On Jul 16, 2007, at 9:53 PM, Fontaine Maverick wrote:

>>

>>> I haven't read it. Got a copy of "The Politician" by Ronnie Dugger,

>>> which I tried to read over twenty years ago. Maybe I should dust it

>>> off until I can get my hands on the Caro book.

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry" <mesmo at gilanet.com>

>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:37 PM

>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] one reason I admired Lady Bird

>>>

>>>

>>>> The Robert Caro books give a detailed account of Walter's fall

>>>> from grace.

>>>> He was LBJ's slave, killing himself to serve the master. LBJ rode

>>>> him hard

>>>> from the time they were in college and then spit him out with no

>>>> apparent

>>>> remorse. Also good accounts of Lady Bird and her progression from

>>>> being too

>>>> shy to attend her high school graduation and receive the

>>>> valedictorian

>>>> award, to a player on the world stage. At some point she stopped

>>>> cooperating

>>>> with Caro on the biographies, he broke her trust and never got

>>>> another word

>>>> from her. I guess it's time to dust off those old volumes and

>>>> peruse them

>>>> for a spell. Man, those girls (Lynda and Lucy) really turned out

>>>> the kids,

>>>> huh? You would need a Greyhound to haul the extended family around.

>>>> G

>>>

>>

>>




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