[AGL] Mike Attack

[Jon Ford]

<IMHO, a photographer should be allowed to shoot one sunset a
year.

my taste in photography is more oriented towards Diane Arbus.>

Mike-- I couldn't agree more.

Jon










>From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele at ando.pair.com>

>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 

>60s<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 

>60s"<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>Subject: Re: [AGL] Mike Attack

>Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:01:59 -0600

>

>i hadnt seen the bottom part of Ewie's supercilious email.

>

>Ewie, you do nature photography, right?

>

>IMHO, a photographer should be allowed to shoot one sunset a

>year.

>

>my taste in photography is more oriented towards Diane Arbus.

>

>like Hans Otto a professional photographer on our list, having

>learnt how photography is/has been done starting with t-shirts

>ruined by doing chemical processing, i dont need your introductory

>instruction on color casts and what it doesnt say on the little yellow

>boxes. and your advice to get my monitor adjusted because i seem

>to be a self-admitted computer something. this from a guy who cant

>do multiplication by threes.

>

>weren't you the guy with the self-nullifying philosophy mantra a

>few threads back on this list?

>

>i met you briefly at a Dave Moriaty party. you didnt want to talk

>about your heroic sailboat adventure that landed you in Hawaii

>in one piece. you are married to a chinese woman and we have

>met your ex-wife who does artistry hereabouts involving birdcages.

>

>well howdy there pardner. Dave Martinez told me he used to

>room with you in Austin

>

>on a not unrelated subject, when is the next reunion? where

>everyone, even me, is invited to.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>----- Original Message -----

>From: "Bill Irwin" <billi at aloha.net>

>To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

><austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 4:31 PM

>Subject: Re: [AGL] Mike Attack

>

>

> > Mike, maybe you don't understand this resolution thing, it is confusing.

> > The D5 does not produce a 39meg file, if it did they would be 

>advertising

> > the fact all over the place.

> > Here is a quote from the Cannon site:

> > File size:

> > (1) Large/Fine: Approx. 4.6MB (4,368 x 2,912) (2) Large/Normal 2.3MB

> > (4,368

> > x 2,912) (3) Medium/Fine: Approx. 2.7MB (3,168 x 2,112) (4) 

>Medium/Normal:

> > Approx. 1.4MB (3,168 x 2,112) (5) Small/Fine: Approx. 2.0MB (2,496 x

> > 1,664)

> > (6) Small/Normal: Approx. 1.0MB (2,496 x 1,664) (7) RAW: Approx. 12.9MB

> > (4,368 x 2,912)

> >

> > If it could produce a 39meg file they would certainly say so.

> >

> > I didn't see Polidori's photos but if they all look a little blue to you

> > that may be a sign that you monitor is not color corrected.  Since you

> > seem

> > to be a computer buff I guess you know that monitors do not always 

>display

> > the correct colors and for critical work they need to be calibrated so

> > things have the correct color.   I have been doing this stuff for a few

> > years and it is true if a scene is illuminated just by sky light only 

>such

> > as in the shade,  can have a bit of a blue cast.  But if you have a blue

> > sky

> > that means you have the sun out and scenes in sunlight never have this

> > blue

> > cast - the engineers at Kodak have figured this out and make their film 

>to

> > show pretty damn good colors.

> >

> > Better get your monitor calibrated if you want to peruse a career as 

>photo

> > critic.

> > Aloha

> >

> > ----- Original Message -----

> > From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <mike.eisenstadt at gmail.com>

> >

> >

> >> Ewie,

> >>

> >> You've got the numbers right and wrong at the same time.

> >>

> >> The Canon D5's sensor is 35.8 x 23.9 mm, the same size

> >> as a frame of 35mm film. It has 12.7 million pixels, its

> >> maxiumum resolution being 4368 x 2912. Multiply that

> >> and you get 12.7 million. Then multiply 3x for the 3 primary

> >> colors and the raw file size is 39Megs, the same in effect as

> >> the 40Megs you mention.

> >>

> >> Same as your camera and scanner without the muss and bother of

> >> film and chemical darkrooms.

> >>

> >> As for speed, this camera shoots 3 frames a second in

> >> burst mode. The specs do not supply shutter lag time

> >> if any. Body is made of magnesium, the lightest metal.

> >>

> >> $2700 is Amazon's discount price for the camera new.

> >> It will take some years before a used one will come

> >> close enough to my money comfort zone, maybe never.

> >> Meanwhile, i will use film in my Canon cameras,

> >> process the slides, chose the keepers, scan them

> >> for $1.90 a frame, correct the scan's levels in Photoshop,

> >> and print on 8x11 inch glossy fake photography paper.

> >>

> >> Meanwhile, looking at Polidori's indoor shots of ruined

> >> interiors in post-Katrina New Orleans, it is hard to overlook

> >> the blue color casts of his incompetence. He was shooting

> >> without a flash indoors on a sunny day. Objects in the

> >> shadow on a sunny day are of course illuminated by

> >> the blue light of the sky. So photos not shot in direct

> >> light, sunlight or flash, are caca: Aunt Tilly under a tree when

> >> she comes back from the drugstore is colored blue. They

> >> don't tell you about that on the little yellow boxes. Might

> >> reduce sales.

> >>

> >> Mike

> >>

> >>

> >> > Well, Mike the Cannon D5 is a nice camera and I would like somebody 

>to

> >> > give

> >> > me one but it is 3 times the price of a Cannon Elan7 and scanner 

>combo.

> >> > Another problem for me with expensive cameras is the problem of them

> >> > getting

> >> > stolen, I had one stolen in China but it was only a $500 loss, can't

> >> > afford

> >> > the $3000 loss.  A 35mm slide scanned at 4000 DPI comes to about 40

> >> > meg,

> >> > the

> >> > Cannon D5 only 12.8 meg.  I don't know if the Cannon has this problem

> > but

> >> > many digital cameras have a significant lag between pushing the 

>shutter

> >> > and

> >> > the actual scan making them a little difficult for capturing fast

> > action.

> >> > Film cameras only 1/60 sec. or less.

> >> >

> >> > Now if you are a real purest you can get the Hasselblad for only

> >> > $31,995

> >> > but

> >> > sill you will not get the resolution of a scanned 35mm slide.  But if

> > you

> >> > are a real resolution fanatic get the 4x5 camera - the only way to 

>go!!

> >> > You

> >> > can buy them on Ebay for around $500.

> >> >

> >> > The processing of color film is a bit of a problem but you can do it

> >> > yourself or send it out.  Doing it yourself and sending it out cost

> > about

> >> > the same price.  Only problem is not instant gratification.  Some art

> >> > forms

> >> > require a little work.

> >> >

> >

> >

>


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