[AGL] Mac Attack
Michael Eisenstadt
mike.eisenstadt at gmail.com
Tue Mar 6 09:13:39 EST 2007
Ewie,
May I point out that prices have come down on digital cameras.
The Canon EOS 5D single lens reflex 35mm camera, without lenses,
may be bought from Amazon.com for a mere $2700. It has a 12
Mb array which is the same size as a standard frame of 35mm film
so for the first time, there is no conversion factor. Heretofore, the
digital 35mm cameras had arrays smaller than a frame of 35mm film
so a conversion factor, usually 1.3, made your wide-angle 20mm lens
on such a camera into a 26mm lens, a normal 50mm lens into a
65mm lens and so on. 35mm lens are designed so that a 35mm
frame of film (less than 1" by 1.4") will capture most of the circular
image which the lens resolves. If the digital array is smaller than
1"x1.4", in effect it captures less of the image.
Now, finally, a digital camera with a full frame array. Goodbye
chemical film processing and scanning it afterwards should i
ever get to own one. Meanwhile, i have the 35mm film slides i want
to print scanned by Austin Photo Imaging on to a Kodak CD
for $1.90 per frame.
With larger format, film is still with us. Consider for example
Robert Polidori's photos of post-Katrina New Orleans taken
with a 5x7 inch view camera. So large a piece of film would
have to be scanned on a drum scanner (expensive!).
See pictures below.
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Irwin" <billi at aloha.net>
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 8:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] Mac Attack
If you only have limited funds to spend on photography the best investment
is the camera and accessories rather that the computer. Any computer that
can run Photoshop will do just fine, memory is the most important thing -
get 2-4 gigs at least. If resolution is important, and it generally is if
you are going to make prints, then the most economical way to go is an
automatic film camera such as the Cannon Elan7 ( generally less than $300)
and a film scanner that can scan 4000 DPI, this will get you very near to
film grain. A comparable digital camera will cost you over $25,000.
Computers don't make photographs, photographers do, you can make a damn
good photo with no computer at all. If you like hype get the Mac, either
one will do a good job.
If we are going to do reviews of home appliances shouldn't we expand a bit
and cover other appliances? My toaster is better than your toaster and my
toast tastes better than your toast. My vacuum cleaner really sucks also.
Ewie
----- Original Message -----
From: bakhirun bakhirun
To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 12:33 PM
Subject: [AGL] Mac Attack
I am trying to remember the quote from Spanish. It goes something like
"...lo que sabe el burro de matematika..." (but it is probably dirtier).
I too have a rather long history of rasslin' with personal computers.
Artist friends in Montreal first baptized me with a creaky Mac 512 in 1986.
I well remember the mental agonies required, at the age of 45, in having to
learn to follow every tiny rule and neat keystroke. Then I moved in with an
old pal in New York and used her MultiMate, on DOS. When I came to Indonesia
and started working as a copywriter I had to use WP5.1 because everybody
else was. Bye-bye Maccy at that point.
But I am basically a visual expressionist and the lure of the wild has
always hovered at the (event) horizon. I took a look at the iMac 24. Jeez,
it looks like a home theatre. And all the reviews, even from the non-Mac
crowd, are replete with wows.
So I'm going for it. As we used to say at the Campus Guild, "Faint heart
never screwed the cook."
Thankee
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
On 3/6/07, Gerry <mesmo at gilanet.com> wrote:
You know about as much about computers as I do about horses...
G
----- Original Message -----
From: "michele mason" <yaya.m at earthlink.net>
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] The Baron is either (a) or (b)
That's okay. But, not flexibility, or bang for the buck—know where to
buy and from whom. Software/hardware, maybe, maybe just a little
inferior. One may get used to a corncob, but I prefer Charmin. Yes, a
macsnob, but I don't mind. mm
On Mar 5, 2007, at 12:24 PM, Gerry wrote:
> <<Macs are better in every sense!<<
>
> Except cost, bang for the buck, flexibility, general availability of a
> huge
> selection of software and hardware, etc.
>
> The one and only area that Macs established an early following and
> have been
> able to keep it is graphic arts...oh yeah, and cuteness...
>
> Not intending to start a "my computer is better than yours war" but
> resisting such an extreme statement as yours.
>
> On the DOS platform since 1985,
> G
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "michele mason" < yaya.m at earthlink.net>
> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [AGL] The Baron is either (a) or (b)
>
>
>> Macs are better in every sense! That's my story....and you know.
>> Sincerely, I am a Mac-person and wouldn't have anything else. Its
just
>> a matter of which one you need. That ?, I would direct to Dave
>> Moriaty.
>>
>> Best regards, Michele
>>
>> On Feb 15, 2007, at 5:49 AM, blacky at cbn.net.id wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I have decided to plunk down two thousand clams for a 24-inch iMac,
>>> primarily to use for photo work and video editing.
>>>
>>>
>>> (a) Hooray for you, Byron. Go for it.
>>>
>>> (b) Yer bonkers, mate.
>>>
>>> Considering that all the furniture in my house is waterlogged, and
>>> that
>>> this sum represents a prodigious amount of dough for me, my esteemed
>>> colleagues and most valued peers are staring at me like I have lost
>>> my
>>> fucking mind.
>>>
>>> Wish me luck folks. Anyhow the way I look at it since I spend 25% of
>>> my
>>> waking hours staring at a stupid screen it may as well be a
>>> whizz-bang
>>> one.
>>>
>>> Any, er, comments? Feedback? Warnings?
>>>
>>> BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
>>>
>>
>>
>
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