[AGL] small furry animals are being killed even as we read this

[michele mason]

Some Missionary Baptists like me can and often do dance their asses 
off.  mm

On Nov 19, 2006, at 11:34 AM, Kathy wrote:


> Q. Do you know why Baptists don't have sex standing up?

>

> A. They're afraid you'll think they're dancing.

>

>

> transgressive |transˈgresiv; tranz-| |trønzˌgrɛsɪv| |trøn(t)sˌgrɛsɪv| 

> |tranzˌgrɛsɪv| |trɑːnz-| |-ns-|

> adjective

> involving a violation of accepted or imposed boundaries, esp. those of 

> social acceptability : her experiences of transgressive love with both 

> sexes.

> • of or relating to fiction, cinematography, or art in which orthodox 

> cultural, moral, and artistic boundaries are challenged by the 

> representation of unconventional behavior and the use of experimental 

> forms.

> • Geology (of a stratum) overlapping others unconformably, esp. as a 

> result of marine transgression.

>

> So, it seems by this  definition immaculate conception and missionary 

> style are the only  non transgressive forms?

>

> salacious |səˈlā sh əs| |səˌleɪʃəs| |səˌleɪʃəs|

> adjective

> (of writing, pictures, or talk) treating sexual matters in an indecent 

> way and typically conveying undue interest in or enjoyment of the 

> subject : salacious stories.

> • lustful; lecherous : his salacious grin faltered.

>

> promiscuous |prəˈmiskyoōəs| |prəˌmɪskjəwəs| |prəˌmɪskjʊəs|

> adjective

> 1 derogatory (of a person) having many sexual relationships, esp. 

> transient ones : she's a wild, promiscuous girl.

> • (of sexual behavior or a society) characterized by such 

> relationships : they ran wild, indulging in promiscuous sex and 

> experimenting with drugs.

> 2 demonstrating or implying an undiscriminating or unselective 

> approach; indiscriminate or casual : the city fathers were promiscuous 

> with their honors.

>

>

>  So the question is, who can define "undue" interest in sex?  the Pope 

> or Hugh Hefner or Larry Flynt or John Ashcroft?

> By the standards of those days, all woman who weren't saving it for 

> marriage were "bad".  Whovever the snitches were were obviously 

> judgemental selfrighteous little pricks who's opinion shouldn't be 

> given much  value, and who probably weren't getting laid themselves, 

> so jealousy probably played a part in their labeling.  Truth is most 

> of the ghetto men and the women were " promiscuous" by the standards 

> of the day. I was reminded recently that The Ranger once ran an 

> article  titled "Has Sex Replaced the Handshake?"  The labels are 

> archaic.  Now days even my arch conservative catholic relatives give 

> their daughters birth control and don't  expect them to  remain 

> virgins until marriage.

> Kathy

>

>  

>

>

>

>

> On Nov 19, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Wayne Johnson wrote:

>

>> No, not personally, Mike, many of my friends-in-the-past were 

>> Salacious. Some were from Sardinia and Crete.

>>

>> I tried to welcome all people regardless of their mythological and/or 

>> religious orientation.

>>

>>

>> As to the business of actually "describing the act of sex"....Gee, 

>> words simply fail me.

>>

>>

>>

>> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

>>

>> wgJ

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 

>> <michaele at ando.pair.com>

>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s" 

>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:49 AM

>> Subject: Re: [AGL] small furry animals are being killed even as we 

>> read this

>>

>>

>>> Wayne,

>>>

>>> You gotta problem with salacious? This is an

>>> uncensored list.

>>>

>>> Mike

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Johnson" 

>>> <cadaobh at shentel.net>

>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 8:40 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Helen Yarbrough

>>>

>>>

>>>> This "thread" is taking on a definitely salacious tone.

>>>>

>>>> Personally, I would have us focus on other things.

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Killing small furry animals, for instance.

>>>>

>>>> wgJ

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 

>>>> <michaele at ando.pair.com>

>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2006 9:14 AM

>>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] Helen Yarbrough

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Fontaine,

>>>>>

>>>>> Actually, doggie-style is very transgressive. Definitely something 

>>>>> to

>>>>> crow

>>>>> about if Clark felt loose enough to share it with you (and he did).

>>>>>

>>>>> Mike

>>>>>

>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fontaine Maverick" 

>>>>> <fmaverick at austin.rr.com>

>>>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

>>>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>

>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 6:18 PM

>>>>> Subject: [AGL] Helen Yarbrough

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Helen was Clarks girlfriend, I'm thinking around 1963 . Short as 

>>>>> me,

>>>>> brown

>>>>> eyes and hair. Clark used to crow delightedly about how he and 

>>>>> Helen did

>>>>> it

>>>>> "doggie style" - how innocent we were thinking that was exotic. 

>>>>> (Or I

>>>>> did,

>>>>> anyway). As for the listmaker cops calling certain women 

>>>>> promiscuous, my

>>>>> recollection from a few years ago was that this was also the label 

>>>>> for

>>>>> Tami

>>>>> and for Janis.

>>>>>

>>>>>  ----- Original Message ----- From: bakhirun bakhirun

>>>>>  To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s

>>>>>  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:27 PM

>>>>>  Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>  Come on Mike, ya gotta run it. I will even get my lawyer to write 

>>>>> you up

>>>>> a

>>>>> permission to use my holy monniker if I happen to be on it 

>>>>> (unlikely as I

>>>>> was always lingering somewhere in the shadows).

>>>>>

>>>>>  BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>  On 11/19/06, Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:

>>>>>   Thorne,

>>>>>

>>>>>   I have in my hands a 6 page list (with a cover page)

>>>>>   of Ghettoistas and Ghetto sympathizers, 82 names

>>>>>   in all, apparently compiled in 1964.

>>>>>

>>>>>   (Parenthetically the pyschiatrists' report on the collective

>>>>>   psychology of Ghettoistas which you reproduced made

>>>>>   amusing reading).

>>>>>

>>>>>   As it was not reproduced in the Texas Observer archive,

>>>>>   you must not have seen our list.

>>>>>

>>>>>   Unfortunately, there are at least a half a dozen current

>>>>>   subscribers to AGL who are named and you would

>>>>>   have had to ask permission of all of them to reproduce

>>>>>   the list.

>>>>>

>>>>>   Reading over the names again, I wonder if the Wayne

>>>>>   Smith on this list would be the same ole codger who

>>>>>   lives near Bastrop and who left this list in a huff?

>>>>>

>>>>>   Also who is Helen Yarborough? She is identified as

>>>>>   "sexually promiscuous" by the guy in the white socks

>>>>>   who infiltrated the Ghetto partays. Sometimes

>>>>>   redundancy is ever-so-telling. For example, the first

>>>>>   line of Gay Talese's immortal classic Thy Neighbor's

>>>>>   Wife, reads "She was completely naked!"

>>>>>

>>>>>   Mike

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

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>>>

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