[AGL] the media is like a child, Bush's dutiful child...

[Frances Morey]

Gerry,
  The stark contrast between the media then and now is one reason why there is so much apathy and why BushCo has no trouble staying in power. The media, being prohibited from showing body bags were cowed into ignoring the death rate from a war fought by "volunteers". The war can only be seen by reading about it and we know how many illiterates there are in the population. If they are unable to read or don't see the consequences of the war on tv it simply isn't real. When I did calling for moveon.org I was amazed at how few supporters, when asked the soft question about which issue they were most concerned about, the war wasn't at the top of most respondents lists.
  Best,
  Frances
  

Gerry <mesmo at gilanet.com> wrote:
            I think the impetus for the "surveilance" and other under cover operations was primarily due to the fact that LBJ, a Texan, was president so the federal presence in the capitol city was heightened because of both the VietNam war and the strong demonstrations against it.
   
  You're close, Frances. Don't forget that the previous president had been assassinated by an apparent Leftist and security was strong everywhere LBJ went. The Leftist presence in Austin was considered a potential threat, lots of potential Oswalds on the campus in the eyes of the Commie haters who dominated the law enforcement establishment. The ultimate moment came when the national media, in Austin to cover LBJ who was at the ranch, had some down time and decided to cover a peace rally on campus. It was a big rally (during the University Freedom Movement days) in the spring of '67.  Erwin made an appearance and threatened to fire faculty and expel students who were "making trouble". And it was all covered by the networks and broadcast to America. It established Austin as a center of protest and the ranks of the underground began to swell. It also radicalized a lot of UT students who had been sitting on the fence. Thank you CBS, ABC, and NBC...I think they were all there???
   
  A few years later the underground was so large in Austin and so many children of the power brokers were getting busted that they (law) finally threw up their hands and let it grow. In a sense the battle of Austin had been won and for several years following (until the growth ate it all up) it was the new utopia. 
  G
   
   
   
   

    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frances Morey 
  To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s 
  Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my private hands a public list...
  

  Mike,
  Around the time you mentioned there was a publication at UT called the "Riata" in which stories of peyote use were written up for all to read. I'm sure this might have attested to the drug use allegations about the individuals on those lists. 
  I think the impetus for the "surveilance" and other under cover operations was primarily due to the fact that LBJ, a Texan, was president so the federal presence in the capitol city was heightened because of both the VietNam war and the strong demonstrations against it.
  Remember Frank Erwin calling the students the "Dirty Nothings"? That was then, too.
  While there is curiousity about knowing the names on the list, there is always the possibility that there could be repercussions. There is some truth to the fact that being accused is just as bad as being convicted. It's like touching a tar baby. Proving that one is not guilty is hard to do, and then there is the guilt by association phenomenon. I recommend that the list not be published on this list. You can always send hard copies to interested parties like BBBBBB.
  Best,
  Frances
  Frances

Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:
  Thorne,

I believe that this list was unearthed or shaken loose
by Sarah Clark Moriaty when she was working
at UT, i disremember its aetiology. You might ask Dave M if he can supply 
more details.

I don't know its legal status or in what sense it is
a "public document." Copies of it were xeroxed
and distributed at one or another Ghetto Re-onion.

I am bi-curious as to who Helen Yarborough might
be. Perhaps she has written up her amorous encounters
with Ghettoistas committed under the influence of
peyote and folk music.

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "thorne dreyer" 
To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s" 

Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names


Mike,

I'd like to see it. Wonder whose files it came from. What did the cover 
say? The stuff onlike should be everything from Hamilton's files, but we 
had to work fast in dallas with two scanners, etc, something could have been 
missed. Nothing in Hamilton's files requires permission because it's 
public.

Thorne


----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Eisenstadt 
To: austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net
Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:31:50 PM
Subject: [AGL] I have in my hands a list of 82 names


Thorne,

I have in my hands a 6 page list (with a cover page)
of Ghettoistas and Ghetto sympathizers, 82 names
in all, apparently compiled in 1964.

(Parenthetically the pyschiatrists' report on the collective
psychology of Ghettoistas which you reproduced made
amusing reading).

As it was not reproduced in the Texas Observer archive,
you must not have seen our list.

Unfortunately, there are at least a half a dozen current
subscribers to AGL who are named and you would
have had to ask permission of all of them to reproduce
the list.

Reading over the names again, I wonder if the Wayne
Smith on this list would be the same ole codger who
lives near Bastrop and who left this list in a huff?

Also who is Helen Yarborough? She is identified as
"sexually promiscuous" by the guy in the white socks
who infiltrated the Ghetto partays. Sometimes
redundancy is ever-so-telling. For example, the first
line of Gay Talese's immortal classic Thy Neighbor's
Wife, reads "She was completely naked!"

Mike 


    
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