[AGL] there's a real world out there with independentactorsbenton mischief

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>From: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster at hotmail.com>
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>Gerry-- I saw the film you are talking about and I agree it was great. It 
>was strongly pro-Palestinian people and showed the brutal tactics of  the 
>Israeli army, yet it also seemed to critique the ways terrorist groups 
>manipulate vulnerable angry young men to blow themselves up. Correct me if 
>I'm wrong, but I think this film was made in Israel, a product of Israeli 
>peace-movement directors.
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>Jon
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>From: "Gerry" <mesmo at gilanet.com>
>Reply-To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
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>To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 
>60s"<austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>Subject: Re: [AGL] there's a real world out there with independent 
>actorsbenton mischief
>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 07:36:19 -0600
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>Did any of you see the movie (wish I could remember the name...) about the 
>two young Palestinians (early 20's) who decide to become martyrs? It was 
>sympathetic to the Palestinian cause, began with a bio of each of them, 
>followed with each of them having his death video, then after they are 
>loaded and wired the mission has to be aborted when they are discovered and 
>they are running from the authorities while carrying their deadly load, one 
>of them has to sleep in the wilderness while still wired and loaded. In the 
>end one of them decides not to go. The other makes it into Tel Aviv and 
>gets on a bus filled with Israeli soldiers. The final shot is a hot white 
>screen and silence.
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>It was one of the flicks shown by the local film society. I doubt it was 
>distributed very widely.
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>Anyhow, it moved me. The portrayal of life in Palestine for a young man (or 
>woman) was especially sad. Probably no sadder than the many scenes from the 
>recent bombing of Lebanon. Remember that? No longer in the news, wonder 
>what's happening there now? Remember Gaza? We are talking DESPERATION here. 
>Oh yeah, remember when the Israeli army was always a leadpipe cinch to 
>dominate against any Arab force it chose to encounter? Since the little 
>skirmish with Hezbollah this is no longer the case.  I hate to say it but 
>the Israeli Army looked like the US Army out there, fumbling, bungling, and 
>not knowing exactly what it was they were supposed to be doing, tanks 
>against guerilla fighters armed with anti-tank missiles, a bad way to go. 
>The mystique is gone now. In Gaza they are building very crude rockets by 
>hand and sending them toward Israel. Most of them don't
>make it that far, hell on the local cows and crops.They can destroy a 
>country but not win a war. Lots of new recruits for Hamas and Hezbollah. 
>(The US Army should be so lucky, now sending guys to Iraq for their 4th and 
>5th missions. Madness, next they will be clearing the jails to find able 
>bodied fighting men...while the college boys party and paint themselves up 
>in the school colors for football games.)  Long dialogues in the New Yorker 
>with various components of the current players in the Middle East drama. 
>They come and go but since the Barak/Arafat drama there has been no 
>progress toward any kind of real settlement...let;let's face it, not in our 
>lifetimes.
> 
>I'm so sick of Morning Edition on NPR, trying to be cute and trendy yuppies 
>at least half the time while the world goes up in smoke. Who is in charge 
>of that crap? Don't they get it? The latest actual count is over 68,000 
>American troupes either killed of wounded or crazy in the war. No end in 
>sight. Meanwhile public radio is fawning over rockabilly heroes of the 
>'50's. I am now only listening at the top of the hour when they give their 
>version of the hard news. Oh yeah, I like to hear Nina Totenburg's legal 
>reports, simply the best in that arena. Rene Montagne? Steve Inskeep? Huh? 
>The only word that fits is "compromised".
> 
>Meanwhile, on the ground, I am having a fine harvest. 15" of rain between 
>July and early September does wonders for the plants that don't wash away, 
>BIG sweet peppers and eggplant and tomatoes, etc. Running the dehydrator 
>most of the day to create winter stash. It's funny, once I step outside the 
>house and into the garden all that crap on the radio fades away and I am in 
>the other world, nature. Now, if the county would only send the road grader 
>to fix my badly washed and only temporarily fixed (by my hand) road, I 
>would be in fine shape for winter. The word is that this will be another El 
>Nino winter. Cutting lots of wood...Love it!
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>Hope you all have a refuge from the news. I recommend gardening or at least 
>hiking away from the city. Get outside let the crap pass you by for 
>awhile...real time.
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>G
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: michelemason
>To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
>Cc: michelemason
>Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:16 AM
>Subject: Re: [AGL] there's a real world out there with independent actors 
>benton mischief
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>"nonsensical evil" —I like that Frances. mm
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>On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Frances Morey wrote:
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>I'm sick of the new boogy men having labels that describe borderless and 
>geographically mysterious suicidal ideologues who become human bomb 
>delivery boys, (occasionally girls). They are sensless slayers whose 
>most poisonous effect is to provide fodder for the media maw that keeps us 
>fearfully enthralled and engaged in war. Mischief is too small a word for 
>this kind of nonsensical evil.
>Frances
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>Michael Eisenstadt <michaele at ando.pair.com> wrote:
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>Al-Qaida could use non-Arabs to attack Israel By Ze-ev Schiff, Haaretz
>Correspondent
>Shin Bet and other intelligence units have been put on special alert after
>Ayman Al-Zawahiri, an Al-Qaida strongman and Osama Bin Laden's deputy, said
>Israel was on Al-Qaida's list of upcoming targets. Intelligence sources 
>said
>Al-Qaida could try to execute a surprise attack using non-Arabs.
>
>Zawahiri is believed to be taking over the leadership of Al-Qaida, due to
>Bin Laden's illness. Zawahiri and Bin Laden have apparently disagreed over
>whether Al-Qaida's next target should be in a Western state or in the 
>Middle
>East. Bin Laden wanted to act in the United States and Europe while
>Zawahiri, who is of Egyptian origin, wished to achieve goals in the Middle
>East; namely, Israel and the Arab states that cooperate with it.
>
>Zawahiri pushed to set up
>Al-Qaida cells in Sinai, taking advantage of the
>Bedouin economic plight to carry out terror attacks against Egyptian 
>targets
>and Israeli tourists. He initiated terror acts in Jordan causing dozens of
>fatalities and was behind the idea to intercept an aircraft carrying 
>Israeli
>tourists to East Africa and attack the hotel where Israelis were staying in
>2002.
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>About two weeks ago, on the anniversary of September 11, Zawahiri warned in
>a video recording that Israel and the Gulf states could be Al-Qaida's next
>targets of attack. Such attacks would be aimed at destroying the Western
>economy. Israel increased its preparations for a preemptive strike 
>following
>his warning.
>
>Israel assumes that Al-Qaida will try to recruit non-Arabs to act against
>Israel, as it tried to enlist Africans for the attacks in East Africa..
>Israel knew of this
>activity, but had difficulty cooperating with the
>Americans to thwart it. However, Israel's cooperation with European
>intelligence brought about the arrest of Al-Qaida people in East Africa.
>
>The most commonly cited surprise attack in Israel was the bombing of Mike's
>Place in Tel Aviv by two Britons of Pakistani origin who were sent by
>Al-Qaida.
>
>The two, who smuggled explosives into Israel, moved freely between Israel
>and the territories with their British passports. About a month ago, 
>British
>authorities exposed British-born Al-Qaida activists of Pakistani origin, 
>who
>were planning to crash passenger airplanes over the ocean with liquid
>explosives.
>
>Another possibility Al-Qaida is believed to be considering is infiltrating
>Israel via Lebanon.
>
>Israel today faces two main fundamentalist groups - Sunni Al-Qaida and
>Shi'ite
>Hezbollah.
>
>Hezbollah is set on harming Israel, but it is hardly likely at this stage 
>to
>allow Al-Qaida to act independently in Lebanon without supervision.
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