[AGL] RE: feeling the community

Tue Jun 13 12:16:45 EDT 2006

Wayne - I'm in CA, but, unless I am completely deluding myself, I've
been the target of a heck of a lot of community love from the Ghetto
group.  Sometimes I've been fussed at, but, heck, I figure my best
friends and family are supposed to fuss at me, keep me honest. Even when
they're dead-ass wrong, they're entitled, I think.  It does pain me to
think that you are experiencing a less satisfying response.  I enjoy
your comments.  Hope you stay with us.  Affectionately, Clementine.

-----Original Message-----
From: austin-ghetto-list-bounces at pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-bounces at pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Johnson
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 3:34 AM
To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
Subject: Re: [AGL] Jaxon again

Frances.

Good to hear from you.  Been awhile.

All messages from Jon and Gerry are labeled "spam", so I only see them
when someone else includes their remarks in a general reply.  I don't
expect either of them to agree with me nor do a give a whit.  Both are
fools of the First Water and they can blather away until they are blue
in the face.  I don't care.  Jon is soooo easy to bait that sometimes my
Evil Twin Freddy overcomes my better, kinder and gentler self and drops
something for him to gag on.  I rarely miss, I might add.  Sort of like
shooting face in a barrel, it loses its charm.

I can't imagine what either they are Clementine would find to disagree
with....unless, of course, they are all in some kind of "social
dementia" whereby...in one of the Texas Kulture's less attractive
aspects...they are so withdrawn and in such a state of denial, that they
think Jaxon should have killed himself.  Frankly, I find many of the
people on the List to have this tendency from time to time.  There
really doesn't appear to be much sense of "community" beyond some nice
food and ocassional music get togethers. Otherwise, it seems to be live
and let die and don't bother me with any "negativity, man."

It is very strange to find this level of social dis-connection among
people who should know better.  Maybe I am missing something warm and
comforting by being here in VA, sort of ...in the distance.  Certainly
there are some like Moriaty that I can usually count on to have some
sensitivity to things.  And, although you don't like him, Wayne Smith
(who was really touched by your card, btw.)

Cheers.

wayne

	----- Original Message ----- 

	From: Frances Morey <mailto:frances_morey at yahoo.com>  

	To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s
<mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>  

	Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:03 PM

	Subject: Re: [AGL] Jaxon again

	Wayne,

	Ever get the feeling that Gerry and Jon can be counted on to
counter whatever opinion you express. I, for two, agree with Clementine
that you spoke for me as well. Perhaps the message boomeranged because
Clementine doesn't know the protocal of deleting the message you are
commenting on, just like you tend to do.

	Best,

	Frances

	Wayne Johnson <cadaobh at shentel.net> wrote:

		I don't understand why my message is being sent back to
me.

		Help.

		wgJ

			----- Original Message ----- 

			From: Clementine Hall <mailto:chall at bsralaw.com>

			To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto
Daze in the 60s <mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>  

			Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 3:45 PM

			Subject: RE: [AGL] Jaxon again

			What he said.

			-----Original Message-----
			From: austin-ghetto-list-bounces at pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-bounces at pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Wayne
Johnson
			Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:53 AM
			To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto
Daze in the 60s
			Subject: Re: [AGL] Jaxon again

			Oh, gee.  What was he thinking?  

			Was his fear about physical stamina or emotional
stamina?  

			I still can't believe that he could think, in
some fashion, that there were NOT a large number of people who really
valued him and his work and would have supported him to the best of
their ability.  In other words, helped him through the emotional
roller-coaster of treatment.  And perhaps helped him with physical
therapy as well.

			Further.

			I don't understand why the blood medical
practioners didn't recognize his fear and provide some kind of
counseling. Both chemo and radiation have been around for decades and
thousands of people survive...in hospices, at home, on golf courses in
Florida and California.  

			Naturally, the quasi-religious sanctions by the
ultra-moronic FDA and DEA against cannabis for suppression of nausea is
a factor for those living and being treated in the US. But I imagine he
would have been welcomed elsewhere, even if just temporarily, to
recover.

			This is so sad and, I think, so unnecessary.

			Unilateral decisions, made in a state of extreme
depression, can have such horrid consequences.  This is one.

			The world was a far better place with "Jaxon" in
it.

			wgJ

				----- Original Message ----- 

				From: Connie Clark
<mailto:connie_3c at yahoo.com>  

				To: survivors' reminiscences about
Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s <mailto:austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>  

				Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 11:38 AM

				Subject: Re: [AGL] Jaxon

				Marilyn,

				This is one email received on the
ghetto2 list:

				 Lynn Howell is a close friend of
Jaxon's who sees 
				him regularly, and saw
				> him
				> a few days ago at a party. Lynn said
pretty much the 
				same thing that Tele
				> did - that given his serious diabetes
he didn't 
				think he had the stamina
				> to
				> undergo chemo for the prostate cancer.

				Also Moriaty said that he took his own
life at his parents' grave in Stockdale.  We don't know much more yet.

				Connie

				Marilyn Wheless <mwheless at airmail.net>
wrote:

				I understand Jack passed away Wed.
night. Do you know any details? Is there
				an obit in the paper? If so, can you
scan me a copy to this email? I will be
				64 on 14 June,. Am not sure who all on
this list remembers me!
				marilyn in menard

				West Texas Headquarters
				----- Original Message ----- 
				From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 
				To: "survivors' reminiscences about
Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"

				Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:54 AM
				Subject: Re: [AGL] period of
consequences

				> Happy Birthday, dear Connie.
				>
				> Mike
				>
				> ----- Original Message ----- 
				> From: "Connie Clark" 
				> To: "BJ's List Ghetto 2" ; "Ghetto
List"
				> 
				> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 8:33 AM
				> Subject: [AGL] period of consequences
				>
				>
				> > Yesterday was my 62nd birthday, and
fate gifted me, through the kind
				> > gestures of friends and family,
tickets to hear Al Gore's multimedia
				talk
				> > about Global Warming. He was brought
to speak in Houston by the
				> > Progressive Forum, and every seat in
the Hobby Center was filled.
				> >
				> > Noted in the program was:
				> > "This Event's Carbon Footprint is
Zero
				> > Associated emissions from the
theater's power usage and your
				> > transportation to and from the event
have been offset by a generous
				> > donation by DrivingGreen.com which
supports agricultural greenhouse gas
				> > reduction projects by AgCert,
Dublin, Ireland."
				> >
				> > Basically, this is what we all need
to aim for in every thing we do, if
				> > we are going to alter the progress
of global warming. Buzzword: carbon
				> > neutral.
				> >
				> > Another message from the
lecture/talk was:
				> > We can not wait for change of
political will, or politicians, the
				change
				> > in policy needs a grassroots
movement asking every politician and every
				> > business now "what are you doing
about global warming". That is what
				his
				> > personal appearances, book and movie
is trying to encourage.
				> >
				> > My fear is that we are so used to
issues-of-the-day, and distracted
				from
				> > one cause to another, that this one
will soon be 'last seasons'
				emergency
				> > issue.
				> >
				> > Evidently, Al Gore has spent a lot
of time over a number of years
				> > face-to-face with scientists and
visiting locations gathering
				information.
				> > He was a delighful speaker last
night, going through power-point charts,
				> > graphs, photos - all of which are in
the book. You may have read about
				the
				> > Larsen shelf in antartica - the
whole of Greenland is showing signs of
				the
				> > same demise. When Greenland goes, so
goes major coastal areas of large
				> > human populations. His talk was full
of clever asides, joked a lot
				about
				> > himself. One of the funny lines was:
"You win a few, lose and few, and
				> > then there is that other
category..." This particular Houston audience
				was
				> > very encouraging and appreciative,
surpising that so many people in
				> > Houston (oil industry center) would
pay to hear his story. We stood in
				> > line for an hour to get our books
signed. Made my birthday!
				> >
				> > The Houston Progressive Forum has
been bringing some very good speakers
				> > to us since it was formed a couple
of years ago. Last year we had Molly
				> > Ivins, Seymour Hersh and Robert
Kennedy, next year E. O. Wilson, James
				> > Hansen and Bill Moyers to name just
a few. Our own Rangeroo David
				> > Crossley is listed on the board of
directors for this 501(c) (3)
				> > oganization.
www.houstonprogressiveforum.org
				> >
				> > We were told that Gore's book, "An
Inconvenient Truth", launched this
				> > week, will debut #3 on the NYT best
seller list. Published by Rodale
				> > Press. Paperback edition only (lots
of color photos) $21.95.
				> >
				> > Go see the movie, and turn off your
lights, hope for and work for a
				> > strong grassroots movement in this
country for joining the Kyoto Treaty,
				> > lifestyle choices, support
environmental groups, buy green power, and
				> > anything we can do to reduce
greenhouse gasses.
				> >
				> > Oh btw, I am about to conclude from
all said, that he is not going to
				run
				> > for president - he is far more
interested in what he is doing now,
				> > including Current TV and chairing an
investment firm called Generation
				> > Investment Management (sustainable
investment). Did you know he is a
				> > board director for Apple, and senior
advisor to Google? About US's Iraq
				> > war he stated something like "the
single biggest strategic error in the
				> > history of this country."
				> >
				> > Appropriate quotes from the book,
lecture, movie:
				> >
				> > Speaking of fascism, Winston
Churchil said
				> > "The era of procrastination, of
half-measures, of soothing and baffling
				> > expedients, of delays, is coming to
its close. In its place we are
				> > entering a period of consequences."
				> >
				> > "Denial is a not a river in Egypt" -
Dire Straits
				> > "Despair is not the tire in the
trunk - Al Gore
				> >
				> > Connie
				> >
				> >
				> >
				> >
				> >
				> > Connie
				> >
				> > http://www.gatherthewomen.org/
				> >
				> >
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