[AGL] technicolor fallout

[Harry Edwards]

And Peggy married Ewan MacColl who wrote "The First Time Ever I Saw  
Your Face."          twisty

On May 2, 2006, at 5:11 PM, susan gilbert wrote:

> mike was in the"new lost city ramblers" , and i have a  pete seeger 45  
> with his big hit 'little boxes"
> susi
>
> On May 2, 2006, at 7:29 AM, Gerry wrote:
>
>> The wife, Toshi, is an American who is half Japanese. (Toshi is short  
>> for
>> Toshiko, a popular Japanese name.) They (Seegers) lived most of their  
>> lives
>> in a house they built on the cheap in the country in 1949, still live  
>> there.
>> He is 86.
>>
>> His style developed by singing to large groups, mostly outdoors with  
>> no P/A
>> with groups like the Almanac Singers (with Woodie Guthrie) and the  
>> Weavers.
>> The idea was to get the audience to sing along, lift their spirits,  
>> to have
>> fun. He liked to sing for children. The studio was an alien  
>> environment to
>> him.
>>
>> The father was an eccentric communist who quit lucrative teaching  
>> jobs (he
>> founded the music department at Berkeley) to travel in a homebuilt  
>> camper
>> (with family in tow) bringing music to the hinterlands. He was  
>> apparently a
>> gifted composer and hung out with the likes of Aaron Copeland, worked  
>> for
>> the WPA, etc.
>>
>> Pete went to Harvard on scholarship, was quite poor and didn't fit in,
>> waited on tables.
>>
>> The NY'er article makes no mention of Mike.
>>
>> In the '50's Pete was indicted for contempt of congress for refusing  
>> to
>> answer questions before the HUAC. Found guilty but avoided jail time  
>> on a
>> technicality.
>>
>> Too bad he couldn't sing well, might have been a star...Instead he  
>> was/is
>> only a genuine American hero.
>> G
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele at hotpop.com>
>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AGL] technicolor fallout
>>
>>
>>> susi,
>>>
>>> I think the thing I disliked most about Pete Seeger's way of singing
>>> was the relentless upbeat rollicky delivery. Also, after I ceased  
>>> being
>>> pro communist, i began to recognize and resent the relentless  
>>> leftwing
>>> activism that propelled him (and others). Recently i read an  
>>> interview
>>> with him in the Sunday NYTimes magazine which filled in on what I
>>> thought I knew about the man. I knew he lived in Beacon and had a
>>> Japanese wife and in person was very tall and knobly. And that Mike
>>> Seegar, who is short and dark, was his half-brother and that his  
>>> family
>>> had a maid in Washington DC who wrote Freight train, freight train go
>>> so slow who grew up in Asheville, NC
>>>
>>> For me, the big insight in the interview was that Pete Seeger's  
>>> father
>>> convinced him that the singing of a song was an existential act that
>>> trumped the song considered in itself. This may be good social
>>> psycholology, but it is conducive to bad performance.
>>>
>>> so it was quite a shock to hear Bruce Springsteen take one of the
>>> songs Pete used to sing, and not being a tall, red-cheeked rollicking
>>> folk singer, instead scream the lyrics into the mike in his usual  
>>> style
>>> of alienated Jersey shore bluecollar youth in full whine mode.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "susan gilbert" <ssg at efn.org>
>>> To: "survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s"
>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 4:01 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AGL] technicolor fallout
>>>
>>>
>>>> michael, i agree with you about pete seeger, he did introduce us to
>>>> music from other aspects of our society, where would we be without
>>>> elizabeth cotton's (the seeger family maid) "freight train" , so
>>>> hopefully bruce will do the same for today's uneducated youth, but i
>>>> doubt they will be interested; anyway, as a measure of who got the
>>>> money right now, i bet mr.springsteen  appeals to those folks and
>>>> maybe it will help the future of  new orleans
>>>> susi
>>>>
>>>> On May 1, 2006, at 11:38 AM, Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Connie,
>>>>>
>>>>> I wish I had been on your birding adventure. Just to see the  
>>>>> American
>>>>> Redstarts a favorite warbler. Of course the painted buntings are so
>>>>> cool.
>>>>> And Black & white warblers are totally neat.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to have heard the concerts. One of our subscribers
>>>>> went to
>>>>> San Antonio for the Dylan tour. I heard a cut from Springsteen's  
>>>>> Pete
>>>>> Seager covers album on KUT. It sounded absolute the lamest: just
>>>>> screaming out the lyrics. Nothing like the original in sound or
>>>>> soul. Not
>>>>> that Seager in the original sang much more than a white bread
>>>>> version of
>>>>> folk songs from real folk. But at least he was rollicking in
>>>>> spirit. Not so
>>>>> Bruce. At least on the one cut I heard from the album.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Connie Clark" <connie_3c at yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: "BJ's List Ghetto 2" <ghetto2 at listserv.whathelps.com>; "Ghetto
>>>>> List"
>>>>> <austin-ghetto-list at pairlist.net>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 12:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: [AGL] technicolor fallout
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It was quite convenient for us to get a storm through the area
>>>>>> Saturday
>>>>>> morning, at the end of Spring Migration.  Birders call it a
>>>>>> 'fallout' when
>>>>>> the migrating birds take refuge in the first sight of land and
>>>>>> food source
>>>>>> on Texas beaches.  Around noon Saturday I drove the one hour from
>>>>>> Houston
>>>>>> to the Quintana bird sanctuary to see what was there.  The
>>>>>> sanctuary is
>>>>>> about a square block or more, has trees, thick undergrowth and
>>>>>> water.  A
>>>>>> trail runs through it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  About 20 or so other birders where already there, and as soon as
>>>>>> I walked
>>>>>> into the woods it was clear, this was going to be a good day for
>>>>>> birding.
>>>>>> There were so many birds, I didn't have time to check my guidebook
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> identification- I wanted to just keep looking.  So, as my usual
>>>>>> practice,
>>>>>> I sidled up to a group of likely experts, and pointed my
>>>>>> binoculars in
>>>>>> unison with them, overhearing what we were all looking out. Quick
>>>>>> identification that way. Birdwatchers are always nice about such
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> They love to share a look-see.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  These birds were in their most brilliant color, feathered finery
>>>>>> and were
>>>>>> quite perky considering they had just flown over the Gulf of  
>>>>>> Mexico.
>>>>>> Hungry there were too.  I saw the yellow, common yellow throat,  
>>>>>> blue
>>>>>> winged, black and white, black-throated green, chestnut sided,
>>>>>> Blackburnian and Magnolia warblers; American Redstarts,  
>>>>>> Philadelphia
>>>>>> Vireos and big orange and black Baltimore Orioles, just to name a
>>>>>> few.  It
>>>>>> is always a treat to see one, but I saw three, Three painted
>>>>>> buntings (1
>>>>>> F, 2 M).  I, with three very helpful birdwatchers left the scene
>>>>>> right
>>>>>> about dusk, all of us exclaiming how good the day had been. When  
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> stepped out of the woods, we saw a huge coastal sunset of pink,
>>>>>> blue and
>>>>>> gold.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  -----------------------
>>>>>>  The storm blew across New Orleans late Saturday and left the
>>>>>> festival
>>>>>> grounds a bit muddy. Not a big problem, as The Boss did an
>>>>>> outstanding
>>>>>> performance with his Seeger Session band.  Protest songs,  
>>>>>> anti-Bush,
>>>>>> anti-war had the very large crowd responding approvingly.  He was  
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> acoustic except for a pedal steel.  That must be a hip new
>>>>>> instrument for
>>>>>> bands these days.  Bobby Dylan had a pedal steel on Friday night
>>>>>> Randy
>>>>>> reported, that gave his set a bit of a Bob Wills sound - and
>>>>>> Dylans' white
>>>>>> suit and cowboy hat made quite a swing band impression. I guess  
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> contrast, his band wore grey suits with black Bolers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Saturday night Dr. John must have felt like he was home at last.
>>>>>> His
>>>>>> final song of his set was from Sly and the Family Stone, "Thank
>>>>>> you for
>>>>>> letting me be myself, again."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Attendance at this year's JazzFest are big, big, big, with long
>>>>>> lines for
>>>>>> tickets, cabs, restaurant tables.  The Crescent City must really
>>>>>> be happy
>>>>>> about all those folks coming back for the best party New Orleans
>>>>>> puts on.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Connie
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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