[AGL] Re: Arrowsmith

[Wayne Johnson]

Well, they are all plays, except the Anonioni review and Chimaera with which I am not familiar.

Birds and Clouds are by Aristophenes.
Alcestis is I think and Bacchae is, I know, by Euripedes.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frances Morey 
  To: survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s 
  Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AGL] Re: Arrowsmith


  Which one's the play:

  SEARCH: ARROWSMITH WILLIAM 
        1  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / Alcestis. / New York / 1974 
        PA 3975 A5 A4 1974 Fine Arts Library
        PA 3975 A5 A4 1974 Fine Arts Library COPY 2
        PA 3975 A5 A4 1974 Classics Library
       

        2  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / Antonioni : the poet of images. / New York / 1995 
        PN 1998.3 A58 A77 1995 PCL Stacks
       

        3  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The Bacchae. / Chicago / 1968 
        PA 3975 A14 PCL Stacks
        PA 3975 A14 PCL Stacks
       

        4  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The birds. / Ann Arbor / 1961 
        PA 3877 A8 1961 PCL Stacks COPY 1
        PA 3877 A8 1961 PCL Stacks COPY 2
        PA 3877 A8 1961 Stephan Poetry Collection PCL Stacks 6A USE IN LIBRARY ONLY
        PA 3877 A8 1961 Classics Library
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        882 AR45OTA PCL Stacks COPY 2 IN COLLECTIONS DEPOSIT LIB - ASK AT CIRCULATION DESK 
       

        5  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The birds. / (Ann Arbor) / 1969 
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks COPY 2
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks COPY 3
        PA 3877 A2 1969B Fine Arts Library
       

        6  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The birds. / Ann Arbor / 1961 
        PA 3877 A8 1961 Humanities Research Center USE IN LIBRARY ONLY
       

        7  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The birds. / New York / 1984 
        PA 3877 A2 1984 PCL Stacks
       

        8  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The Chimera; a rough beast. / New York / 1942-1947 
        Check HRC holdings 
        http://auden.hrc.utexas.edu/serials/search.html 
        AP 2 C51541 Humanities Research Center USE IN LIBRARY ONLY
       

        9  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The clouds. / Ann Arbor / 1962 
        PA 3877 N8 1962 PCL Stacks
        PA 3877 N8 1962 Stephan Poetry Collection PCL Stacks 6A USE IN LIBRARY ONLY
        882 AR45NTA PCL Stacks IN COLLECTIONS DEPOSIT LIB - ASK AT CIRCULATION DESK 
        882 AR45NTA PCL Stacks COPY 2 IN COLLECTIONS DEPOSIT LIB - ASK AT CIRCULATION DESK 
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        10  Arrowsmith, William, 1924- / The clouds. / (Ann Arbor) / 1969 
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks COPY 2
        PA 3877 A2 1969B PCL Stacks COPY 3
        PA 3877 A2 1969B Fine Arts Library 


  Wayne Johnson <cadaobh at shentel.net> wrote:

    I always like John Sullivan's translation of Petronius. In many ways, I 
    thought as good as Arrowsmiths. Really liked Sullivan and his wry English 
    view of "things Texan."

    wgJ
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Michael Eisenstadt" 
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    Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 12:52 PM
    Subject: [AGL] Re: Arrowsmith


    >i was forwarded a number of remarks about UT classics
    > professors Arrowsmith and John Sullivan.
    >
    > I had 2 classes with Arrowsmith, 1 with John Sullivan.
    > Sullivan's was on Latin lyric poets and I remember
    > his remarks on textual problems being acute and
    > grounded in Latin language competence. This is
    > rare among American classics professors, but
    > Sullivan was an Englishman and educated there.
    >
    > In one of Arrowsmith's seminars we read Apuleius'
    > The Golden Ass. The other was on Euripides about
    > whom Arrowsmith had a new theory, namely
    > "modality." When pressed to define modality he
    > was never able to come up with anything that made
    > sense. The very pleasant seminar setting was in his and Jean's house out 
    > on Red Bud Trail. After the
    > seminar he would serve cookies and sangria mixed in a kitchen pot: nasty.
    > As for Arrowsmith's competence in Greek and Latin,
    > he seemed to know Greek fairly well. As for his
    > competence in Latin, a much more difficult language,
    > there is an amusing anecdote in a memorial to him
    > written by Saul Bellow. Bellow knew him at Princeton where they became 
    > friends. In Rome once walking about together a beggar accosted them, 
    > questioned them as to their professions and learning that Arrowsmith was a 
    > classics professor, spouted out a reel of memo rized Latin and challenged 
    > Arrowsmith to identify the author. He undoubtedly pronounced Latin in 
    > Catholic school style with "ch"s and soft "g"s. Arrowsmith at a total loss 
    > told Bellow that it wasn't real Latin, just mumbojumbo. I could never 
    > decide whether Bellow realized that Arrowsmith was bullshitting him or 
    > not. Probably not or why put the
    > story in a memorial to a friend? I gave a copy of the piece to classics 
    > prof David Armstrong for his reaction. His conclusion was the same: 
    > Arrowsmith didn't have a clue. Hard position to be in. How to explain
    > to Bellow that American classicists don't really know Latin and Greek like 
    > Englishmen and continentals?
    > Bellow's reminiscence/memorial to Arrowsmith is in his "It all adds up."
    > 

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