as the world turns????
Michael Eisenstadt
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Thu Oct 28 12:39:08 2004
Which paragraphs didnt you understand?
Mike
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From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh@shentel.net>
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Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: as the world turns????
> My apologies for being so dim this morning, but what part of this argument
> is supposed to about "demonization" and what part is supposed to be about
> "simplistic thinking"? Am I supposed to conclude that the author is
> pro-Sharon and anti-Sharon? I fear I have missed the point somehow.
>
> Please clarify.
>
> Thanks.
>
> wayne J
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Madelon Umlauf" <madelon@austincc.edu>
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> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2004 10:52 AM
> Subject: as the world turns
>
>
> > it is so easy for simplistic thinking to demonize
> > Ariel Sharon at the moment.
> >
> > this is the man who deceived Menachem Begin
> > that he wouldnt take the Israeli army past the
> > Litani area. But he pressed on to Beirut. his
> > real intention was to create a puppet regime
> > in neighboring Lebanon based on the Maronites
> > (Lebanese Christians) and drive out the PLO
> > which was on the point of taking over Lebanon.
> >
> > Of course the Maronites changed sides
> > immediately (hey, its the Near East) to the
> > Syrians and got the Syrians to save them
> > from the refugee Palestinians. This the
> > Syrians were happy to do because it made
> > them the masters of Lebanon (which they
> > still are). And Sharon did succeed in
> > getting the PLO troops evacuated to Tunisia.
> > This was in 1982.
> >
> > Sharon famously was involved in the Sabra
> > & Shatila masacres when Maronites went into
> > the Palestinian refugee camps and slaughtered
> > at least 2000 men women & children. talk
> > about a blood bath! at the very least Israeli troops
> > stood by while this was happening.
> >
> > Sharon is also the gentleman who,
> > disobeying orders from Moshe Dayan
> > the one-eyed gent then Defense Minister
> > who was having a nervous breakdown,
> > took his tank battalions over into Egypt
> > and did a classic envelopment of the
> > Egyptian 3rd Army, saving the country's
> > bacon so to speak. this was in 1973.
> >
> > and back before 1967 was the commander
> > of Israeli Special Forces which did punitive
> > raids against Palestinian irregulars in the
> > West Bank then ruled by Jordan.
> >
> > now he has forced through the Knesset
> > the decision to evacuate Israeli settlements
> > from the Gaza Strip, 7000 men, women in
> > kerchiefs and children. These folks get
> > a $250,000 buyout per family from the govt
> > which seems quite generous
> >
> > Sharon is a cold SOB. He obviously
> > ordered the IDF to shed some serious
> > blood in their most recent incursion into
> > the Gaza slums. This helped the evacuation
> > proposal to pass in the Knesset. Only
> > Sharon could have done it. Like only
> > Nixon could have recognized Red China.
> >
> > Netanyahu & other Likudites are calling for
> > a referendum. Why when 65% of the country
> > would vote yes. Because the settlers and the
> > religious are a very corrupt electorate. They
> > regularly vote the cemeteries in their precincts
> > and their activists vote over and over again
> > in this or that precinct. Political parties such
> > as Labor and others send in poll watchers
> > but it is virtually impossible to tell one young
> > bearded black suit from another especially
> > where the poll workers are complicit.
> >
> > so it seems that in the real world rulers act
> > incrementally, ad hoc rather than according
> > to some long-range plan.
> >
> > so what are we to think of Sharon now?
> >
> > by the way the ads on the Internet editions
> > of Haaretz and the Jerusalem Post are
> > thick with Vote Kerry/Edwards banners.
> > What does that tell you about your simplistic
> > views of Israel?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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