HLS and food for thought?

[Pepi Plowman]

Charlie,

I'm with you all the way--at least you're smart and
left.  If Bush wins (and even if he doesn't), we'll be
slogging through deep doodoo.  Should they do away
with the Patriot Act if Kerry wins, we're in for an
economic crash that will make 1929 look tame.  I'm
scared for any of us who are not "kids" and don't fit
in with the Bush craziness and aren't immensely
wealthy.  Mexico looks better and better.

pep

--- Wayne Johnson <cadaobh@shentel.net> wrote:

> Section 802.  That has a nice wring, uh, ring to it.
>  Oh, where are Sinclair 
> Lewis, George Orwell or Philip K Dick when we most
> need them?
> 
> wgJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "IgorLoving" <lovingigor@earthlink.net>
> To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:26 AM
> Subject: HLS and food for thought?
> 
> 
> >
> > Homeland Security
> >
> > What is most frightening to me is the erosion of
> our rights under the 
> > constitution. Look at society, and ask the
> question as to whether we are 
> > free?  The Bush attack on the First Amendment and
> freedom of speech comes 
> > to mind right off the bat. And the Homeland
> Security Act.
> >
> > Section 213: Changes the standards for search
> warrants to allow  "sneak 
> > and peak" searches in any investigation. Snoop now
> let you know later.
> >
> > Fourth Amendment, allowing secret U.S. courts to
> authorize secret searches 
> > if the government can allege (ALLEGE) a
> foreign-intelligence rationale. 
> > Any evidence can now be used in court
> >
> > Section 206" Permits "roving wiretaps," which
> allows the government to tap 
> > all phones or computers a suspect might use.
> Example those in a 
> > neighborhood church or pool hall.
> >
> > Section 220: Curtails judicial oversight on
> wiretaps.
> >
> > Section 214: By claiming relevance to a terrorism
> investigation, the 
> > government can track your incoming and outgoing
> calls without a warrant or 
> > probable cause.
> >
> > Section 216:  Allows Internet wiretaps to be used
> in any criminal 
> > investigation.
> >
> > Section 215: Without probable cause the FBI can
> search you personal 
> > records held by a church, library, bookstore, and
> etc. with a gag order so 
> > you do not know it was done.
> >
> > Section 505: Anyone from John  Ashcroft down can
> issue a national security 
> > letter and get information on you without your
> knowledge.
> >
> > Section 802: New crime definition "Domestic
> Terrorism" an illegal act that 
> > appears to be intended to influence government
> policy by intimidation or 
> > coercion. This can be used against
> environmentalists, anti-abortionists 
> > and makes any civil disobedience reclassified as
> an act or terror. A 
> > football pep rally could fit this definition.
> >
> > Section 806: Judge can seize the assets of alleged
> domestic terrorists.
> >
> > Then there are others. Do we have the right to
> trial by jury? Is there a 
> > right of habeas corpus?  Is the argument that
> executive authority leaves 
> > no room for a second-guessing by federal courts? 
> Is the incarceration of 
> > people in Cuba by the U.S. military lawless? Do we
> still have to abide by 
> > the Geneva Convention?
> >
> > I think that this might be quite an Imperial way
> of thinking. We  see what 
> > the Supreme Court has to say on that subject. If
> Bush wins and he appoints 
> > his own court we may be in deep doo doo.
> >
> > Do we actually have the right to have
> extraterritorial prisons?
> > Should we have extraterritorial prisons? And
> should we use these to punish 
> > extraterritorial crimes? Should the United States
> government create 
> > "rights free zones?"
> >
> > Food for something?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@hotpop.com>
> > Sent: Oct 24, 2004 9:32 AM
> > To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > Subject: Bush is right about one thing
> >
> > the Iraqi resistance is surely praying for
> > Kerry to win.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 



	
		
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