Carolyn, please name the Israeli policies towards the Arab world you object to

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Michael,
  I should say that the intellectual capablilites of our president allowed 
these two idiots Fein and Wolfowitz to allow Israel to set our Policies. We 
have seen how well they planned for the aftermath of our War with Iraq. We are 
at low ebb in the talent department in the whitehouse and in the dept of 
defense.
 Carolyn

Quoting Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com>:

> From: <globe@zipcon.net>
> To: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
> Cc: <globe@zipcon.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 2:33 PM
> Subject: Re: Carolyn, please name the Israeli policies towards the Arab
> world you object to
> 
> 
> > The new settlements and the building of the Wall.  they are not doing
> anything
> > to ease tensions.
> 
> Carolyn,
> 
> There are NO new settlements. Sharon did authorize the building of
> 1000 new houses in existing settlements. Maybe not a great idea but
> there are NO new settlements.
> 
> As for the building of the Wall, where this has been done, in the north
> of the country, it has stopped terrorist incursions completely. There
> have
> been NO incursions where the wall is in place. In the lastest outrage,
> in
> Beersheba in the Negev in the south, where 2 suicide bombers blew
> themselves up in 2 buses killing 16 innocent people killed and wounding
> 90, there is NO wall yet built. The mayor of Beersheba and others,
> subsequent to the bombing and even before, have been demanding that
> the erection of the wall be speeded up and implemented in the south.
> 
> You are AGAINST this? It stops terrorist incursions. This has been
> proved where the wall is in place. How can you not be in favor of
> finishing the wall?
> 
> You speak of these Israeli actions (building houses and raising a wall)
> as not "easing tensions." Hamas and Islamic Jihad are bent on the
> total destruction of the Israeli state and they make no bones of
> stating
> this frequently. According to the standard interpretations of the
> Koran,
> no territory ever ruled by an Islamic government may lawfully be ruled
> by a non-Islamic government. Much less by jews. So in theory the
> Iberian peninsula, southern France, Italy as far north as Naples, and
> the predominantly Christian Balkan countries must be returned to
> Islam. In fact, according to the Spanish police, that was the stated
> motive of the gentlement who blew up the 4 trains in Spain, an action
> that was 5 years in the planning, long before the conservative
> government of  Spain sent troups to Iraq in support of Bush.
> 
> You also wrote:
> 
> >   This  betraying of secrets affair the FBI is investigating is
> serious
> because
> > it would mean that Israel gets a peek and can influence our policy
> twards
> > Iran.  I am sure you don't think it is a good idea if we invade Iran
> with
> the
> > Israelis.
> 
> No of course not. However if the Iranians provide themselves with
> nuclear armed rockets, I rather imagine Israel will take steps. Ya
> know,
> the Iranians are mightily opposed to the existence of Israel probably
> for the religious reasons outlined above.
> 
> First let me point out that Wolfowitz does not make policy in the Bush
> White House. At least that is what Jim Mann, the author of The Rise
> of the Vulcans says (a very interesting book if you want to know ALL
> about Rumsfeld, Chaney, Powell, Wolfowitz and Armitage.
> 
> The gentleman being questioned by the FBI in connection with what
> AIPAC did or did not tell the Israeli embassy (American Israeli
> Political Action Committee) does NOT work for Wolfowitz. He works
> for someone named Feith. He has NOT been charged with anything
> (yet). Neither has anyone from AIPAC. So why do you assume that
> Israel is guilty of something?
> 
> It's like you are expressing a mood, a feeling, some kind of aversion
> to Israel. What is husband John's opinion on these matters?
> 
> Excuse the long rant.
> 
> Michael
> 
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