why 4? Re: Response
Clark Santos
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Wed Sep 1 11:49:06 2004
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OR, QUIVERING FINGERS FROM OLD AGE OR UTTER MADNESS!
El Patron
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 01:39 AM, Jim Baldauf wrote:
> Yes, I received four copies too!
> =A0
> One was far too many.
> =A0
> jb
> =A0
> ps. Maybe Jim Strong is causing multiple copies to be sent.
> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Perhaps to make you look bad!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jon Ford
> To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:16 AM
> Subject: RE: why 4? Re: Response
>
>
>
> Sorry you received four-- i only sent one.
> =A0
> Jon
>
>
>
> =A0
>
> >From: Mary Ann Wilson <mbuttons@gate.net>
>
>
> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>
> >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
>
> >Subject: why 4? Re: Response
>
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:03:08 -0500
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >Jon,
>
> >
>
> >I received FOUR of these. One is more than enough. This stuff doesn't=20=
> belong
>
> >on list.
>
> >
>
> >m-a
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >on 8-31-2004 3:13 PM, Jon Ford at jonmfordster@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> >
>
> >Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. Although I had=20
> previously
>
> >received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the guetto2 folk=20
> without
>
> >quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of hostility; Jim=20=
> totally
>
> >denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had made it all up. =
I
>
> >still maintain that you were=A0=A0dissed in this case by Wayne and =
Gerry,=20
> but
>
> >Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone and still be a=20=
> friend
>
> >(except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of his email =
world
>
> >because of a comment I once made about how white celtic skin is most
>
> >beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" of skin color=20=
> is a
>
> >subjective=A0=A0cultural concept).
>
> >
>
> >Jon
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
>
> > >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>
> > >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
>
> > >Subject: Re: Response
>
> > >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600
>
> > >
>
> > >From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
>
> > >To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
>
> > >Cc: "Ghetto 2" <GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>
>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM
>
> > >Subject: Re: Response
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > > > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting
>
> > > > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's
>
> > > > one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or
>
> > > > what?=A0=A0You send a blip out of the blue talking about
>
> > > > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,
>
> > > > but you don't forward the e-mail.=A0=A0There's no way to
>
> > > > know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he
>
> > > > rightly figured it was personal.
>
> > >
>
> > >It was personal but he posted it both to me and
>
> > >to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but
>
> > >it was so creepy I was ashamed to.
>
> > >
>
> > >That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email
>
> > >in its entirety
>
> > >
>
> > >START HERE
>
> > >
>
> > >--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com> wrote:
>
> > >
>
> > > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html
>
> > > >
>
> > > > very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek
>
> > > > composer by an Israeli journalist
>
> > > >
>
> > > > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but
>
> > > > more nuanced.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > here's a snippet
>
> > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> > >=A0=A0 <reply>
>
> > >=A0=A0=A0=A0what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you
>
> > >are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....
>
> > >=A0=A0=A0=A0or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite
>
> > >pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your
>
> > >significant other doppleganager ...
>
> > >=A0=A0=A0=A0maybe you should try to get another waiter job -
>
> > >and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming
>
> > >asshole with the customers ...
>
> > >
>
> > >peace and have another xanax.
>
> > >
>
> > >STOP HERE
>
> > >
>
> > >I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.
>
> > >
>
> > >What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis
>
> > >and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression
>
> > >"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?
>
> > >
>
> > >Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male
>
> > >menopause and the tests show that it is under control.
>
> > >The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike
>
> > >FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours
>
> > >is distilled from horny stallion pee.
>
> > >
>
> > >Pepi also said
>
> > >
>
> > > > You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,
>
> > > > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and
>
> > > > acquaintances in consideration of their possible
>
> > > > view of you.
>
> > >
>
> > >At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly
>
> > >identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)
>
> > >and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on
>
> > >JSDGMLG2.
>
> > >
>
> > >I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon
>
> > >has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from
>
> > >the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne
>
> > >and Gerry.
>
> > >
>
> > >I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a
>
> > >counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.
>
> > >So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and
>
> > >Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like
>
> > >me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,
>
> > >that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's
>
> > >not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.
>
> > >
>
> > >Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.
>
> > >And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the
>
> > >LEGUME conspiracy against me.
>
> > >
>
> > >You're right about email being an imperfect medium.
>
> > >I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist
>
> > >was that we knew each other in real life and saw
>
> > >one another at parties. So when reading Karen or
>
> > >Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,
>
> > >it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,
>
> > >you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.
>
> > >
>
> > >As compared to folks one knows ONLY through
>
> > >email.
>
> > >
>
> > >I think the problem with my letters is that the
>
> > >charm of full self-expression is too tempting for
>
> > >me. My self-expression IS different from the
>
> > >usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view
>
> > >is that if I find myself living among folks with a
>
> > >more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I
>
> > >would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.
>
> > >Alas, this decision does not easily make me
>
> > >friends nor do I have any ambition to run for
>
> > >elected office.
>
> > >
>
> > >It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean
>
> > >Penn directed movie The Pledge where
>
> > >Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside
>
> > >house drinking a beer and arguing with himself
>
> > >with gestures. Or is it?
>
> > >
>
> > >Mike
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter =
tools=20
> and
>
> >more! <http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2746??PS=3D47575>
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >-- Mary Ann Wilson
>
> >mbuttons@gate.net
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's=20=
> FREE!
>
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OR, QUIVERING FINGERS FROM OLD AGE OR UTTER MADNESS!
El Patron
On Wednesday, September 1, 2004, at 01:39 AM, Jim Baldauf wrote:
<excerpt>Yes, I received four copies too!
=A0
One was far too many.
=A0
jb
=A0
ps. Maybe Jim Strong is causing multiple copies to be sent.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Perhaps to make you look bad!
----- Original Message -----
<bold>From:</bold> <underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>Jon
Ford</color></underline>
<bold>To:</bold>
=
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist=
.net</color></underline>
<bold>Sent:</bold> Wednesday, September 01, 2004 1:16 AM
<bold>Subject:</bold> RE: why 4? Re: Response
Sorry you received four-- i only sent one.
=A0
Jon
=A0
>From: Mary Ann Wilson
=
<<<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>mbuttons@gate.net</color>=
</underline>>
>Reply-To:
=
<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist=
.net</color></underline>
>To:
=
<<<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>austin-ghetto-list@pairli=
st.net</color></underline>>
>Subject: why 4? Re: Response
>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 21:03:08 -0500
>
>
>Jon,
>
>I received FOUR of these. One is more than enough. This stuff doesn't
belong
>on list.
>
>m-a
>
>
>on 8-31-2004 3:13 PM, Jon Ford at jonmfordster@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. Although I had
previously
>received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the guetto2 folk
without
>quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of hostility; Jim
totally
>denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had made it all up. I
>still maintain that you were=A0=A0dissed in this case by Wayne and =
Gerry,
but
>Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone and still be a
friend
>(except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of his email
world
>because of a comment I once made about how white celtic skin is most
>beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" of skin color
is a
>subjective=A0=A0cultural concept).
>
>Jon
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <<michaele@HotPOP.com>
> >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >To: <<austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >Subject: Re: Response
> >Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600
> >
> >From: "Pepi Plowman" <<pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> >To: <<austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >Cc: "Ghetto 2" <<GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>
> >Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM
> >Subject: Re: Response
> >
> >
> > > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting
> > > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's
> > > one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or
> > > what?=A0=A0You send a blip out of the blue talking about
> > > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,
> > > but you don't forward the e-mail.=A0=A0There's no way to
> > > know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he
> > > rightly figured it was personal.
> >
> >It was personal but he posted it both to me and
> >to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but
> >it was so creepy I was ashamed to.
> >
> >That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email
> >in its entirety
> >
> >START HERE
> >
> >--- Michael Eisenstadt <<michaele@HotPOP.com> wrote:
> >
> > > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html
> > >
> > > very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek
> > > composer by an Israeli journalist
> > >
> > > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but
> > > more nuanced.
> > >
> > > here's a snippet
> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >=A0=A0 <<reply>
> >=A0=A0=A0=A0what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you
> >are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....
> >=A0=A0=A0=A0or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite
> >pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your
> >significant other doppleganager ...
> >=A0=A0=A0=A0maybe you should try to get another waiter job -
> >and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming
> >asshole with the customers ...
> >
> >peace and have another xanax.
> >
> >STOP HERE
> >
> >I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.
> >
> >What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis
> >and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression
> >"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?
> >
> >Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male
> >menopause and the tests show that it is under control.
> >The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike
> >FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours
> >is distilled from horny stallion pee.
> >
> >Pepi also said
> >
> > > You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,
> > > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and
> > > acquaintances in consideration of their possible
> > > view of you.
> >
> >At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly
> >identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)
> >and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on
> >JSDGMLG2.
> >
> >I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon
> >has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from
> >the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne
> >and Gerry.
> >
> >I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a
> >counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.
> >So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and
> >Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like
> >me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,
> >that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's
> >not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.
> >
> >Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.
> >And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the
> >LEGUME conspiracy against me.
> >
> >You're right about email being an imperfect medium.
> >I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist
> >was that we knew each other in real life and saw
> >one another at parties. So when reading Karen or
> >Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,
> >it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,
> >you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.
> >
> >As compared to folks one knows ONLY through
> >email.
> >
> >I think the problem with my letters is that the
> >charm of full self-expression is too tempting for
> >me. My self-expression IS different from the
> >usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view
> >is that if I find myself living among folks with a
> >more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I
> >would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.
> >Alas, this decision does not easily make me
> >friends nor do I have any ambition to run for
> >elected office.
> >
> >It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean
> >Penn directed movie The Pledge where
> >Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside
> >house drinking a beer and arguing with himself
> >with gestures. Or is it?
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>Check out Election 2004 for up-to-date election news, plus voter
tools and
>more! <<http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2746??PS=3D47575>
>
>
>-- Mary Ann Wilson
>mbuttons@gate.net
>
>
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</excerpt>=20
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<underline><color><param>1999,1999,FFFF</param>Express yourself
instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's =
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