Response
Jon Ford
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Tue Aug 31 16:35:08 2004
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<P>Mike-- I'm glad you sent out the email from Jim. Although I had previously received it from you,I tried to interpret it for the guetto2 folk without quoting directly from it, and was met with a hail of hostility; Jim totally denied sending it, suggesting indirectly that you had made it all up. I still maintain that you were dissed in this case by Wayne and Gerry, but Wayne is a big-hearted guy, who can get mad at someone and still be a friend (except in my case, in which he totally wiped my out of his email world because of a comment I once made about how white celtic skin is most beautiful of all, whereas I mantain that the "beauty" of skin color is a subjective cultural concept). </P>
<P>Jon</P>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
<DIV></DIV>>To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Response
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2004 12:47:42 -0600
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Pepi Plowman" <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
<DIV></DIV>>Cc: "Ghetto 2" <GHETTO2@LISTSERV.WHATHELPS.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 9:28 PM
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Response
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > Mike, you remind me of Don Quixote, fighting
<DIV></DIV>> > windmills! You want to pick a fight whether there's
<DIV></DIV>> > one there or not! Is this a late midlife crisis, or
<DIV></DIV>> > what? You send a blip out of the blue talking about
<DIV></DIV>> > how you were insulted by an e-mail sent by Jim Strong,
<DIV></DIV>> > but you don't forward the e-mail. There's no way to
<DIV></DIV>> > know what Jim meant without seeing it, albeit he
<DIV></DIV>> > rightly figured it was personal.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>It was personal but he posted it both to me and
<DIV></DIV>>to agl. I should have allowed it to go through but
<DIV></DIV>>it was so creepy I was ashamed to.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>That was a mistake it seems. Here's his email
<DIV></DIV>>in its entirety
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>START HERE
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>--- Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotPOP.com> wrote:
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/469781.html
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > very long interview with Theodorakis the great Greek
<DIV></DIV>> > composer by an Israeli journalist
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > he is full of it just like Jim Strong and others but
<DIV></DIV>> > more nuanced.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > here's a snippet
<DIV></DIV>>=================
<DIV></DIV>> <reply>
<DIV></DIV>> what a pathetic, whiney little schnorra weasel you
<DIV></DIV>>are mikey ... i. e. Gai kakhen afenyam ....
<DIV></DIV>> or, in the laternative, go engage in your favorite
<DIV></DIV>>pasttime - anal (and/or) banal intercourse with your
<DIV></DIV>>significant other doppleganager ...
<DIV></DIV>> maybe you should try to get another waiter job -
<DIV></DIV>>and avoid being fired this time for being a flaming
<DIV></DIV>>asshole with the customers ...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>peace and have another xanax.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>STOP HERE
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I shouldnt have showed to Madelon as it upset her.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>What set him off I don't know. I said that Theodorakis
<DIV></DIV>>and Jim Strong and others are full of it. The expression
<DIV></DIV>>"full of it" seems so anodyne so what set him off?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Pepi, I want you to know that I take pills for my male
<DIV></DIV>>menopause and the tests show that it is under control.
<DIV></DIV>>The figures are in range and that's science. Unlike
<DIV></DIV>>FHR (female hormone replacement) medication ours
<DIV></DIV>>is distilled from horny stallion pee.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Pepi also said
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> > You are developing paranoid conceptualizations,
<DIV></DIV>> > as ever, as you enumerate at length friends and
<DIV></DIV>> > acquaintances in consideration of their possible
<DIV></DIV>> > view of you.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>At length? This is so unfair. Jon Ford mistakenly
<DIV></DIV>>identified Wayne Johnson (40 year friendship)
<DIV></DIV>>and Gerry Storm as having dissed me on
<DIV></DIV>>JSDGMLG2.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I wrote merely to disabuse him of an error. Jon
<DIV></DIV>>has never even MET Wayne. Gerry I know from
<DIV></DIV>>the Raw Deal. Jon Ford spoke ONLY of Wayne
<DIV></DIV>>and Gerry.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I shoulda stopped there. But at the keyboard a
<DIV></DIV>>counterbalancing contrast seemed to be needed.
<DIV></DIV>>So I named JS, Simmons, Ted Samsel and
<DIV></DIV>>Fontaine also as folks who really REALLY dont like
<DIV></DIV>>me. Pepi, that aint paranoid conceptualizations,
<DIV></DIV>>that's simply the way it is. It's only 4 people, it's
<DIV></DIV>>not a big deal. Sorry it's such a problem for you.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Afterwards Wayne confirmed my claim of friendship.
<DIV></DIV>>And Gerry publicly giggled at Wayne's revelation of the
<DIV></DIV>>LEGUME conspiracy against me.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>You're right about email being an imperfect medium.
<DIV></DIV>>I have always thought that the charm of OUR maillist
<DIV></DIV>>was that we knew each other in real life and saw
<DIV></DIV>>one another at parties. So when reading Karen or
<DIV></DIV>>Connie or other folks that we actually know in real life,
<DIV></DIV>>it always strikes me how lifelike their emails are,
<DIV></DIV>>you can almost hearing them speaking, it is SO them.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>As compared to folks one knows ONLY through
<DIV></DIV>>email.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>I think the problem with my letters is that the
<DIV></DIV>>charm of full self-expression is too tempting for
<DIV></DIV>>me. My self-expression IS different from the
<DIV></DIV>>usual Texan sensibility, I know that. But my view
<DIV></DIV>>is that if I find myself living among folks with a
<DIV></DIV>>more buttoned-up sensibility, the last thing I
<DIV></DIV>>would do in my whole life would be to adopt it.
<DIV></DIV>>Alas, this decision does not easily make me
<DIV></DIV>>friends nor do I have any ambition to run for
<DIV></DIV>>elected office.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>It's like Jack Nicholson at the end of the Sean
<DIV></DIV>>Penn directed movie The Pledge where
<DIV></DIV>>Nicholson is sitting on the porch of his lakeside
<DIV></DIV>>house drinking a beer and arguing with himself
<DIV></DIV>>with gestures. Or is it?
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Mike
<DIV></DIV>>
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