what "caused" World War One
Hans-Peter Otto
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Sat Aug 21 19:35:36 2004
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Hello,
You know Mike here in Germany there is decomcracy, Social awareness. The Ju=
nkers are invisible, the royalties mostly on boulevard mags. There is no cl=
ass system, hahahahahahahoho
It is becoming more and more apparent that the class system is active. The =
poor are getting worse, the middle class is being banished, the upper contr=
olling class is moving fast to reap all. The unavoidable caos is near, peo=
ple are taking to the streets because the=B4ve nothing else to loose.
Laws are being made by people who have no idea what they are doing and coul=
d care less. They are in the cookie jar, let the rest eat shit. No action=
is taken by responsible politicians, they are quibbling over dots and com=
mas.=20
HARZ IV, a new program for hardcore unemployed is to provide ? 1 jobs meani=
ng that the few lucky ones that have 5 or 7 Euros an hour jobs now, will lo=
ose them when the industry realizes that they can pay 1 Euro and be right w=
ith the powers to be.=20
The middle ages are returning and indentured slaves will have a new name. D=
ay laborers are reappearing en masse. Will the cycle be complete? What new =
war will make the change?
What is next?
Baffled,
hans
berlin
On Saturday, August 21, 2004, at 04:08PM, Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@HotP=
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>i was desparately out of books to read</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>when i found out about Fritz Fischer.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>He got to be the FIRST to see German</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>state archives about the Great War (WW I);</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>this was after 1945. also the French and</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>English archives were opened at this </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>luckily his books written in German have </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>been translated and published in the US</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>in a nutshell:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>even though no passports were needed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and money was counted in gold and freely </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>converted </FONT><FONT size=3D2>and the tourist biz was=
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great </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>guns </FONT><FONT size=3D2>and you could take the train=
to go=20
all </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>over </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Europe, at the same time the=
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</FONT><FONT size=3D2>heavy </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>thinkers who were writing and reading in their=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>comfy living rooms all over Germany believed=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>that </FONT><FONT size=3D2>the Latins (French, Italian)=
were=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>contemptible </FONT><FONT size=3D2>compared to Germany=
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culture,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>discipline and rectitude and </FONT><FONT size=3D2=
>that=20
</FONT><FONT size=3D2>the Slavs </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>(Russians, Poles and all </FONT><FONT size=3D2>the othe=
r slavs=20
in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the Balkans) were </FONT><FONT size=3D2>even MORE conte=
mptible=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>than the Latins.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Russia was industrialising fast with </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>massive French capital investments</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and planned to have a 2,000,000 strong</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>army (conscripted) in place by 1917.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The standing German army had been</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>raised to 600,000 but it was feared </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>that the balance of strength was</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>tipping inevitably in favor of Russia</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>and that Germany would lose THAT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>war. So it was now or never (1914)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>but the war plan assumed that they</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>could keep England out of the war.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Finish off France in 6 weeks while</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the Austrians held the Russians</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>back, then finish off the Russians.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>The war plan dictated the violation</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>of Belgium neutrality in order to</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>position the German army. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>When they learned that England</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>WOULD come in if they invaded</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Belgium, they realized </FONT><FONT size=3D2>that their=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>war plan assumption was </FONT><FONT size=3D2>flawed=20
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>but they went ahead anyway.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If they had won the Battle of the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Marne in 1914, they would have won</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the war right then. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>im only up to p 80 and there are </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>500+ pages to go. deelicious!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>the other German historians were/are</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>very pissed at Fischer because </FONT><FONT size=3D2>th=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>claim that Wilhelmine </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Germany was=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>no more guilty for </FONT><FONT size=3D2>WW One than th=
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</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>other parties; </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Fischer seems to=
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have </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>proved </FONT><FONT size=3D2>otherwise</FONT></DIV>
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