so-called Stanford experiment but please stay tuned

[Wayne Johnson]

Gee, Mike, what constitutes the "truth".  That someone doesn't get tenure
doesn't mean they are either corrupt or incompetent.  Seen too many good
people fail to get tenure at Big Universities where Tenure is more Political
than anything else.

I have never read any scholarly debunking of Milgram's work. I still hold
that the Viet Nam war was wrong.  Thirty years later, the same arguments I
used/held then, are still good.  Why change?

wayne
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Eisenstadt" <michaele@HotPOP.com>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: so-called Stanford experiment but please stay tuned


> Milgram was interviewed on Jim Lehrer show.
> He is the author of Obedience to Authority based
> to on an experiment he ran at Yale where he was an
> Assistant Professor. (It should be noted that Yale
> did NOT give him tenure for his work and he
> moved to the less prestigous Graduate School of
> City University of New York).  But on the Lehrer
> show he spoke NOT of his experiment but of the
> so-called Stanford Experiment, different presumably
> from his, Milgram's experiment of manipulating and
> tricking temporary employess into bad actions.
> Proving what? That those in authority can impose
> themselves on others? Big deal!
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> It is to their credit that the Yale Psychology
> department denied him tenure for this work.
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> (look at the book, Wayne, you'll quickly come to the
> same conclusion). He subsequently received the
> the annual sociopsychological prize of the
> American Association of Science for this
> research -- for the same work that the Yale
> psychology department refused to give him
> tenure for!
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> Wayne, is it that any nonsense you have believed
> for 30 years ago is necessarily the truth?
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> As for Zimbardo and his experiment at Stanford
> when did this take place and where was the study
> published? Zimbardo is not mentioned in Milgram's
> index.
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