Fools rush in...again

Fri May 21 09:38:57 2004

You know Igor, I frankly don't give a damn about your experiences.  Nothing
you have written that I have seen suggests that you have developed any
sensitivity to anything.

I have known a lot of Nam vets who learned a great deal about themselves and
about command decisions and how the government fucks everyone over.  They
were/are brave men who cried for their lost comrades and their own lost
innocence.  I am proud of them and their contribution for what they believed
was a just and noble cause.  That I don't agree with their understanding in
no fashion belittles or demeans their sacrifice.

Glad you don't like Halliburton but the rest of your views just depict a
mind that is closed and happy to be that way.

As for Andersonville, there were many people who despised this situation and
railed against it.  It was after all "bleeding heart liberals" who were the
Abolitionist movement.  And the Civil Rights movement after that.  And the
Environmental movement after that.  And the Regime Change movement right
now.

If you can't understand the broader implications of what is going on here
and in Iraq, then stick to something you can grapple with like Spider man.
And for pity's sake, man, lose those stupid phrases like "bleeding heart
liberal".  Makes you sound like more of a red-neck moron than you probably
are.  Find yourself a nice Evangelical Church somewhere and have a good roll
on the floor.

Oh, dear, I have flamed again.  Good.

wayne johnson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "IgorLoving" <lovingigor@earthlink.net>
To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 9:06 PM
Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?

> War is a tarvesty but it has been with us since forever. If you read about
prisons you will see that they are all bad. Andersonville didn't have a
bunch of bleeding heart liberals crying about treatment. The Japanese
treated out men like shit at Batan and no one worte stupid whiney stuff
about that. Read about John McCain and his experiences in Hanoi and you get
the idea. I did two tours in Nam and the last one wasn't much fun. So the
babble about our guys kicking ass in the prison is natural stuff. I don't
get too excited about it. Americans are the same as evweryone else and that
is the was revealed. Hah we are just as much a bunch of ass holes as
everyone else we just have the dumb ass media looking over our sholders. The
French I served with in Angola hated the media. The media told what they
were doing. We didn't need media to do the job. The job was to make the
world safe for Hailburton and we did it well , sort of.
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Frances Morey <frances_morey@excite.com>
> Sent: May 20, 2004 12:28 AM
> To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> Subject: RE: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
>
>
> Wayne,
> I don't think I have zip file capability on this computer. The last time I
tried to open a zip file something wormed into every nook and crany of the
stored files with pop-up-poop-nonsense, some 42 screens of it, which I had
to delete every time I turned on the machine--so I am wary of them. What is
the attachment, photo or text? Sounds like a road movie, "The Road to Abu
Ghraib," staring Lyndie and her consort.
> Frances
>
>
>
>  --- On Wed 05/19, Wayne Johnson < cadaobh@shentel.net > wrote:
> From: Wayne Johnson [mailto: cadaobh@shentel.net]
> To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>      Cc: strongjim@yahoo.com
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 14:47:48 -0400
> Subject: How did we get to Abu Ghraib?
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