let's try doing it in Houston--not getting lost, that is...

Frances Morey austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Tue Mar 30 14:08:38 2004


Judy,
Fred doesn't do email now that he retired from The University. I have his phone number and will ask him about passing it on...
Frances


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 --- On Tue 03/30, Monty/Judy < m.herr@comcast.net > wrote:
From: Monty/Judy [mailto: m.herr@comcast.net]
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 10:55:10 -0800
Subject: RE: let's try doing it in Houston, being politically sympatico, that is...

Speaking of -  Do you have an email address for Fred Seabolt?  There are a<br>couple of events from the past we'd like to check against his memories.  <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net<br>[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net] On Behalf Of Frances Morey<br>Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:04 AM<br>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>Subject: RE: let's try doing it in Houston, being politically sympatico,<br>that is...<br><br><br>Ghettz,<br>I saw Ed Guinn prominently seated in the first row at the Travis County<br>Democratic convention and I had to ask him if he had lost weight or just<br>got a haircut. He laughed and said it was definitely the hair cut. He<br>stayed through the resolutions which ran after 4:00 p.m. when the affair<br>was supposed to be over. I waited around until they announced the at-large<br>delegats to state at the very end, close to 6:00 p.m. I made it, so James<br>Gardner, Fred Seabolt and I may go to Houston together as we three were<br>also chosen at-large delegates.<br>Frances <br><br><br>. <br><br><br> --- On Tue 03/30, Forrest Gunter < fpgunter@hotmail.com > wrote:<br>From: Forrest Gunter [mailto: fpgunter@hotmail.com]<br>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:47:18 -0600<br>Subject: let's try to do in the dirt<br><br>All:I'm still trying to get the hang of the new math, or the male itch, the<br><br>heartbreak of shingles, ED, or three or four other nuisances which my<br>native <br>delicacy precludes my specifying, but I'm pretty sure that Ed<br>Guinn ought to <br>be lumped in, if he wouln't mind being lumped, with the<br>youth corps of 4 or <br>5 friends.  I haven't seen my old pal Ed in a<br>while, but it seems like he <br>ought to count for more like 5/3 of a<br>person for his gravity psychical and <br>physical, times 5=3 people at<br>least Goodman Ed ought to vote for and <br>represent.<br><br><br>>From:<br>Harry Edwards <laughingwolf@ev1.net><br>>Reply-To:<br>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>To:<br>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>Subject: Re: let's try to do<br>nuance<br>>Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:42 -0600<br>>MIME-Version: 1.0<br>(Apple Message framework v612)<br>>Received: from pairlist.net<br>([216.92.1.92]) by mc1-f7.hotmail.com with <br>>Microsoft<br>SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Sat, 27 Mar 2004 11:16:13 -0800<br>>Received: from<br>pairlist.net (localhost.pair.com [127.0.0.1])by pairlist.net <br>>(Postfix)<br>with ESMTPid 588F8536A5; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:16:13 -0500<br>(EST)<br>>Received: from smtpout.ev1.net (smtpout.ev1.net<br>[207.44.129.134])by <br>>pairlist.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CBD53534for<br><br>><austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 14:14:48 -0500<br>(EST)<br>>Received: from [216.40.234.83] [216.40.234.83] by smtpout.ev1.net<br>with <br>>ESMTP  (SMTPD32-6.06) id A2A64C39010E; Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:46<br>-0600<br>>X-Message-Info:<br>QIy1oIULmHeZ0Z8YVLJR2qGyAfVDCUeR<br>>Delivered-To:<br>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>In-Reply-To:<br><20040327002758.61188.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com><br>>References:<br><20040327002758.61188.qmail@web14424.mail.yahoo.com><br>>Message-Id:<br><002D9D50-8023-11D8-95DB-000393A1AAA4@ev1.net><br>>X-Mailer: Apple Mail<br>(2.612)<br>>Errors-To:<br>austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net<br>>X-BeenThere:<br>austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.0<br>>Precedence:<br>bulk<br>>List-Help:<br><mailto:austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=help><br>>List-Post<br>: <mailto:austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net><br>>List-Subscribe:<br><br>><http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/austin-ghetto-list>,<mailto:<br>austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=subscribe><br>>List-Id:<br>survivors' reminiscences about Austin Ghetto Daze in the 60s<br><br>><austin-ghetto-list.pairlist.net><br>>List-Unsubscribe:<br><br>><http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/austin-ghetto-list>,<mailto:<br>austin-ghetto-list-request@pairlist.net?subject=unsubscribe><br>>List-Archi<br>ve:<br><http://www.pairlist.net/pipermail/austin-ghetto-list/>
 <br>>X-Original-Date<br>: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 13:14:42 -0600<br>>Return-Path:<br>austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net<br>>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar<br>2004 19:16:13.0948 (UTC) <br>>FILETIME=[F890E3C0:01C4142F]<br>><br>>You go<br>girl!<br>><br>>It's obvious who has<br>agenda.<br>><br>>Harry<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>On Mar 26, 2004, at 6:27 PM,<br>Pepi Plowman wrote:<br>><br>>>Jon and Mike,<br>>><br>>>Think what you like.<br>It's obvious you can't read.  I<br>>>NEVER said that Israelis are reborn<br>Nazis--my SISTER<br>>>did.  And I reiterate--I am not racist, ethnicist<br>or<br>>>otherwise intolerant of anyone, except people who<br>>>can't<br>read.<br>>><br>>>pep<br>>><br>>><br>>>--- Michael Eisenstadt<br><michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:<br>>>>Jon and Pepi too,<br>>>><br>>>>Racial<br>sense is a very complicated issue. For<br>>>>example, I have had<br>>>>4 or<br>5 black friends in two cities  (I am not<br>>>>counting Ed G as I<br>never<br>>>>detected any friendship overtures from him to<br>me<br>>>>poisonally) but there<br>>>>was always a wee tad something short<br>of total ease<br>>>>in these friendships.<br>>>><br>>>>Jews as such,<br>identifiably jewish is got to be a<br>>>>stretch for a non<br>jewish<br>>>>person not to have some sense of racial difference.<br>>>>Or<br>call it a<br>>>>recognizable otherhood.<br>>>><br>>>>Some never get over an<br>imbued childhood sense of<br>>>>this.<br>>>><br>>>>Pepi threw us a bone.<br>Its not only the jews who are<br>>>>the troublemakers<br>>>>disturbing our<br>peace, but their ge<br> netic cousins the<br>>>>Arabs are doing the<br>>>>same. The fact that they<br>are not genetic cousins<br>>>>doesnt need to enter<br>>>>it. Unlike Bush, I<br>am trying to do nuance.<br>>>>Poisonally I don't have a<br>>>>sense of<br>being a genetic cousin to anyone. Nor does<br>>>>Pepi. Nor<br>do<br>>>>individual Israelis. So what does this all boil down<br>>>>to?<br>Somehow the<br>>>>Plowman sisters drank in some antijew racism in<br>the<br>>>>course of growing<br>>>>up, not unknown even in this country (we<br>all do in<br>>>>one way or another<br>>>>about others) and it shyly peeps<br>out when she speaks<br>>>>as she did<br>>>>about Israelis being reborn<br>Nazis. Fits in neatly<br>>>>with general buddhist<br>>>>beliefs which like<br>Protagoras' ruler are infinitely<br>>>>maleable.<br>>>><br>>>>Even if I<br>know its there a little bit as regards<br>>>>folks "like" me,<br>it<br>>>>doesnt make me like Pepi any the less. I enjoy her<br>>>>and her<br>wit when<br>>>>I see her at the T & D Martinez' or at a<br>party.<br>>>><br>>>>Best,<br>>>><br>>>>Mike<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>___________________<br>_______________<br>>>Do you Yahoo!?<br>>>Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File<br>online. File on<br>time.<br>>>http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html<br>>><br>>><br>><br>><br><br><br>_________________________________________________________________<br>Get<br>tax tips, tools and access to IRS forms - all in one place at MSN Money!<br><br>http://moneycentral.msn.com/tax/home.asp<br><br><br><br><br><br>