let's try doing it in Houston, being politically sympatico, that is...
Monty/Judy
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Tue Mar 30 13:57:00 2004
Speaking of - Do you have an email address for Fred Seabolt? There are =
a
couple of events from the past we'd like to check against his memories. =
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Ghettz,
I saw Ed Guinn prominently seated in the first row at the Travis County
Democratic convention and I had to ask him if he had lost weight or just
got a haircut. He laughed and said it was definitely the hair cut. He
stayed through the resolutions which ran after 4:00 p.m. when the affair
was supposed to be over. I waited around until they announced the =
at-large
delegats to state at the very end, close to 6:00 p.m. I made it, so =
James
Gardner, Fred Seabolt and I may go to Houston together as we three were
also chosen at-large delegates.
Frances=20
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--- On Tue 03/30, Forrest Gunter < fpgunter@hotmail.com > wrote:
From: Forrest Gunter [mailto: fpgunter@hotmail.com]
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 11:47:18 -0600
Subject: let's try to do in the dirt
All:I'm still trying to get the hang of the new math, or the male itch, =
the
<br>heartbreak of shingles, ED, or three or four other nuisances which =
my
native <br>delicacy precludes my specifying, but I'm pretty sure that Ed
Guinn ought to <br>be lumped in, if he wouln't mind being lumped, with =
the
youth corps of 4 or <br>5 friends. I haven't seen my old pal Ed in a
while, but it seems like he <br>ought to count for more like 5/3 of a
person for his gravity psychical and <br>physical, times 5=3D3 people at
least Goodman Ed ought to vote for and <br>represent.<br><br><br>>From:
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<br>>FILETIME=3D[F890E3C0:01C4142F]<br>><br>>You go
girl!<br>><br>>It's obvious who has
agenda.<br>><br>>Harry<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>>On Mar 26, 2004, at 6:27 =
PM,
Pepi Plowman wrote:<br>><br>>>Jon and Mike,<br>>><br>>>Think what you =
like.
It's obvious you can't read. I<br>>>NEVER said that Israelis are reborn
Nazis--my SISTER<br>>>did. And I reiterate--I am not racist, ethnicist
or<br>>>otherwise intolerant of anyone, except people who<br>>>can't
read.<br>>><br>>>pep<br>>><br>>><br>>>--- Michael Eisenstadt
<michaele@ando.pair.com> wrote:<br>>>>Jon and Pepi =
too,<br>>>><br>>>>Racial
sense is a very complicated issue. For<br>>>>example, I have had<br>>>>4 =
or
5 black friends in two cities (I am not<br>>>>counting Ed G as I
never<br>>>>detected any friendship overtures from him to
me<br>>>>poisonally) but there<br>>>>was always a wee tad something =
short
of total ease<br>>>>in these friendships.<br>>>><br>>>>Jews as such,
identifiably jewish is got to be a<br>>>>stretch for a non
jewish<br>>>>person not to have some sense of racial =
difference.<br>>>>Or
call it a<br>>>>recognizable otherhood.<br>>>><br>>>>Some never get over =
an
imbued childhood sense of<br>>>>this.<br>>>><br>>>>Pepi threw us a bone.
Its not only the jews who are<br>>>>the troublemakers<br>>>>disturbing =
our
peace, but their ge
netic cousins the<br>>>>Arabs are doing the<br>>>>same. The fact that =
they
are not genetic cousins<br>>>>doesnt need to enter<br>>>>it. Unlike =
Bush, I
am trying to do nuance.<br>>>>Poisonally I don't have a<br>>>>sense of
being a genetic cousin to anyone. Nor does<br>>>>Pepi. Nor
do<br>>>>individual Israelis. So what does this all boil down<br>>>>to?
Somehow the<br>>>>Plowman sisters drank in some antijew racism in
the<br>>>>course of growing<br>>>>up, not unknown even in this country =
(we
all do in<br>>>>one way or another<br>>>>about others) and it shyly =
peeps
out when she speaks<br>>>>as she did<br>>>>about Israelis being reborn
Nazis. Fits in neatly<br>>>>with general buddhist<br>>>>beliefs which =
like
Protagoras' ruler are infinitely<br>>>>maleable.<br>>>><br>>>>Even if I
know its there a little bit as regards<br>>>>folks "like" me,
it<br>>>>doesnt make me like Pepi any the less. I enjoy her<br>>>>and =
her
wit when<br>>>>I see her at the T & D Martinez' or at a
party.<br>>>><br>>>>Best,<br>>>><br>>>>Mike<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><b=
r>
>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>>_________________=
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