Reverse racism?
Pepi Plowman
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Mon Mar 29 01:00:53 2004
I beg your pardon, the Irish are Super Human, doncha
know?!
pep
--- Wayne Johnson <cadaobh@shentel.net> wrote:
> Well, everything is OK, except, of course, for the
> Irish, who, as we all
> know are sub-human!
>
> May the Liffy swallow your shoes!
>
> Paddy O'Bubba McGowen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> To: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 3:00 PM
> Subject: Reverse racism?
>
>
> > Pepi-- Sorry I had a bit of trouble having a
> "clear read" of your post.
> > Maybe you lost credibility to me with the "past
> lives" stuff. I totally
> > believe that this is "mumbo jumbo"--the Buddhist
> ideas on reincarnation
> can
> > work as a metaphor for enhancing one's Karma on
> this earth to avoid coming
> > back as a lower form of being in another frame of
> being, but the literal
> > reincarnation in the Bridey Murphy stuff is just
> the mind working
> overtime
> > to create fictional personas. Better to go write a
> novel, or a series of
> > them! Thus I couldn't quite believe the other
> strange aspects of your
> > "family story." Well, it's an interesting bit of
> autobiography, as is the
> > part about being raped and then living with black
> people in part out of
> > "reverse racism." I can't really judge your
> response to your rape-- sounds
> > like you were trying to cope in your own way. I
> hope it worked for you.
> But
> > did this "reverse racism" really wipe out your
> anger (I assume you had
> some
> > negative responses to being raped-- this would
> seem normal)? My point in
> my
> > post was that, as Michael E. suggests, a little
> bit of unconscious
> racism
> > still hangs around, even if we consciously
> understand other cultures and
> > ethnic groups and even if we do extreme penance
> to eradicate the feeling
> of
> > difference. Admitting and coping with such
> feelings is better than
> > repressing and denying them.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> > >From: Pepi Plowman <pepstoil@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > >Subject: Re: let's try to do nuance
> > >Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 11:28:50 -0800 (PST)
> > >
> > >Jon,
> > >
> > >Sorry my posts are ununderstandable to you--in
> the
> > >last one, the stories about being burned in
> the ovens
> > >and being a Buddhist monk are past
> lifetimes--the part
> > >about my sister and I being born in a prison
> camp in
> > >the Philippines and her living in Israel for
> eight
> > >years took place in this lifetime and is no
> fantasy.
> > >
> > >Insofar as racism and ethnicism is
> concerned--it's
> > >true, it's available to all, especially if one
> has no
> > >experience of other cultures. I was raped
> (and so was
> > >my little sister, Gayle) by black men and I
> made it a
> > >goal to not become a racist because of it. If
> > >anything as regards black people, I am a
> reverse
> > >racist, because I esteem so much about them.
> I hung
> > >out mostly with African Americans when I lived
> in
> > >Berkeley because I felt more comfortable with
> them.
> > >
> > >pep
> > >--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > Pepi-- I want you to know that I can
> read pretty
> > > > well and I tried hard to
> > > > read your last post, but you are so
> psychic you
> > > > don't seem to know fantasy
> > > > from reality. I can't tell which part of
> your
> > > > family's bio is
> > > > reincarnation-tales, which is fantasy or
> weird
> > > > family stories somewhat
> > > > varnished by time,
> > > > which is just sheer crank-talk. But I do
> know that I
> > > > didn't intend to insult
> > > > you or call you or your sister a racist
> in my post
> > > > to Mike E. I was talking
> > > > in general of such bunk as
> "Israelis are
> > > > reincarnated
> > > > Nazis" and where such thoughts
> evolve from, how they
> > > > are related to other
> > > > thoughts such a false analogy as
> "Zionism is
> > > > Fascism". I wanted to open the
> > > > discussion into a more general sense of
> illogic and
> > > > mental infection by
> > > > slogans. On the other hand, the comments
> Mike
> > > > recently made about the
> > > > difficulty of total acceptance of people
> of other
> > > > races/cultures rings true.
> > > > There is always a trace of
> "difference" in our
> > > > dealings with people of other
> > > > cultures and ethnicities; we can
> suppress these
> > > > feelings and try to be
> > > > totally one with all the world, but in
> the long run,
> > > > it's better to
> > > > acknowledge the little bit of
> unconscious racism we
> > > > all carry around in us.
> > > > Acknowledging it won't make it go away,
> but it may
> > > > prevent it from biting us
> > > > in the butt or coming back to us inr
> dreams and
> > > > bizarre fantasies about
> > > > reincarnation.
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > &gt;From: Pepi Plowman
> &lt;pepstoil@yahoo.com&gt;
> > > > &gt;Reply-To:
> austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;To:
> austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > > &gt;Subject: Re: let's try to do
> nuance
> > > > &gt;Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2004 12:58:22
> -0800 (PST)
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;Mike, this is getting
> ridiculous! I really
> > > > can't
> > > > &gt;answer questions that have no
> basis in any
> > > > knowledge
> > > > &gt;other than a set-in-stone,
> vituperative point of
> > > > view.
> > > > &gt; So rather than answer your
> questions, I will
> > > > tell you
> > > > &gt;a little bit about myself and my
> sisters.
> > > > &gt;
> > > > &gt;First of all, the Plowman girls
> are all pretty
> > > > &gt;consciously psychic. Which is
> to say, we are
> > > > privy to
> > > > &gt;circumstances, feelings, vibes,
> future events,
> > > > AND
> > > > &gt;past ones, by virtue of staying
> in touch with
> > > > that
>
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