letter from Bob to Mike

[telebob x]

Mike-

The reason I posted to the Yahoogroups backup list was because the last two 
or three posts I made to the Pairlist (after I made some snipy remark 
towards you recently) have not gone through. Maybe a coincidence, maybe not.

Since you have blocked other's mail to this list in the past, it is only 
reasonable to assume that you have done the same to me now. I posted to 
Yahoogroups backup on the off-chance that you had forgotten to block that 
one. It seems that was a correct assumption.

Now then, ahem.

Mike, I have no desire to fight with you on this list, or any list.  I don't 
mind disagreeing with you, though. I would question my entire identity if I 
did not. I am sorry that you continue to interpret and characterize those 
differences as "hatred".

The curious thin air of the e-mail environment always exaggerates the naked 
meaning of words, and sometimes people give WAY too much weight to these 
morning or late-night snippets of agitated fingers. I'll argue with a 
wheelbarrow in some cases.

But Mike, you should not accuse me of having hatred for you, but I DO find 
much of your behaviour over the last year to be objectionable. I have called 
you on it.  You are welcome to do the same for me.  There are damned few 
saints on this list.

You also had a lot of mitzvah points for running the a-g-l list, but you 
threw them away when you started your role as list cop, and you really went 
in the minus category when you whipped up on Wali (However tempting a target 
you found him to be, you should have resisted that urge.). But let's forget 
that.

As someone who has known you for 35 years or so, let me go on record as 
saying that I don't hate you. I don't even feel much animosity, but you DO 
piss me off with some frequency, and when you do, I fire back. That's a 
quite a distance from hatred.

If this were the old Chuck Wagon, I would probably avoid your table for a 
few weeks and go over and sit with Belmer, Dave, and Connie...or whomever. 
Surely in that environment, whatever catty comment or solecism that ruffled 
the feathers, would soon pass and we could later get back to the marketplace 
of ideas and a little more rough jousting.

So let me say I apologize for any ad hominem attacks I have made regarding 
you.  I prefer to confine my criticisms to your provebable actions and often 
laughable notions.  At the same time I also want to say thank you for the 
efforts you have put forth on keeping the ghetto lists going. I also 
recognize that you serve a valuable function in your yenta/foil role.... and 
yes, you may have had some smart things to say about something I am 
sure...hmm.

My hope is that you will simply restore my privleges to post on Pair.com 
list, and I encourage you to do the same for anyone else you have blocked in 
the past.  I used to enjoy the a-g-l. I also like the other lists that have 
spun off from a-g-l.  I did not wish to see the a-g-l die, and that is why I 
still (tried to) post to it from time to time.

Let this dispepsia pass soon, so we can continue to slide (in our 
acrimonious harmony) into the primordial gene dump in a more decorous 
manner. Sandy's recent passing should be a stark reminder to all that our 
time on this planet is short enough. We ought to try to make it as pleasant 
as possible.

tBob





----Original Message Follows----
From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
Reply-To: austin-ghetto-list@yahoogroups.com
To: austin-ghetto-list@yahoogroups.com
CC: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Subject: Re: Mikey at it again
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 08:11:21 -0600

I just checked and Simmons is still subscribed to agl@pairlist.net,
in fact twice over, at telebob@hotmail.com and telebob98@hotmail.com

see attached screen grab showing the pairlist interface for
membership management.

Mikey is not blocking Simmons mail. Mikey? what hatred the man
has for me. i have no idea why.

as i also manage agl@yahoogroups.com (as a backup for when
pairlist.com gets weird), Simmons' successful posting to that
maillist address would seem to belie his paranoia.

M.Eisenstadt

telebob x wrote:
 >
 > Hi folks, I just wanted to let you know that that paragon of free
 > expression, Mike Eisenstat is now blocking my mail to "his" list...so I 
will
 > not be posting there any more...much to Mike's relief I am sure.
 >
 > Amazing isn't it?...How when one starts down that path how narrow the
 > circles get...
 >
 > tBob


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