large radical anthologist riled

Wed, 25 Dec 2002 22:03:01 -0600

Jon and Mike,

You are  boring assholes.

Mike, this is the kind of stuff that made a bunch of us run off and leave
the party and start another one. Jon, you really have been getting down on
Mike's level - today anyway. Why do you take the bait?

Fontaine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Ford" <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>
To: <michaele@ando.pair.com>; <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: large radical anthologist riled

>
> Michael-- I would recommend the introduction to the reading process from
my
> anthology on the history of the short story "Web of Stories." (available
at
> amazon.com. I am also very fond of my work on an older book "Writing as
> Revelation", alo listed on Amazon erroneus under my wife's name. Also, the
> intros on reading and writing about fiction in "Imagining Worlds" are both
> quite good. But I insist that you buy them-- after all, you savaged my
> poem-- why should I help you in any way?
> Oh yes-- Mike, believe it or not, I bought all my realestate with my own
> money-- my parents wouldn't give me a cent. Can you say the same? Whose
> money bought your condo?
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
> >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: Re: large radical anthologist riled
> >Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 20:11:56 -0600
> >
> >Jon Ford wrote:
> >
> > > ...As for my slum properties in Oakland, I sold all my East Bay
holdings
> > > about 25 years ago, and I never owned "slum properties"-- only fine
> > > Victorian mansions. That's why I can afford to live in Palo Alto,
while
> > > you live in a tiny condo-- enjoy your failure, Mike-- it becomes you
> >well!
> >
> >in other words, Ford is truly full of it and does not plan to post his
> >favorite
> >3 or 4 paragraphs from his published work because then we would all
> >indubitably know forever more what a lackwit and gasbag he is
> >
> >after flunking out of the U of Michigan PhD English program he wound up
> >teaching English composition at a junior college in the 'hood for many
> >years but having been born into a family with some money he was able to
> >invest successfully in real estate and hasnt yet lost all of it in the
> >stock market
> >
> >interesting that his father lives next door to me in an identical condo
> >apartment
> >
> >so dont hold your breath, he wont be posting any of his writing to
> >the list. i will make a small effort to procure one of the anthologies
> >he has edited and re-edited and re-edited. if i find anything amusing
> >I shall post it to the list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > > >From: Michael Eisenstadt <michaele@ando.pair.com>
> > > >To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > >Subject: large radical anthologist riled
> > > >Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 08:40:08 -0600
> > > >
> > > >Jon Ford wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh Oh-- let's not get into the "publication envy"
> >syndrome.Eisenstadt, I
> > > > > could put your complete works in my backpocket but that wouldn't
> >make
> > > >them
> > > > > any more or less pretentious and boring to read. My textbooks are
> >the
> > > >best
> > > > > that money can buy in my field, and for your info my editor makes
us
> > > >keep
> > > > > the weight down. My latest (weighing in at 250 pages,
AddisonWesley
> > > >Longman
> > > > > publishers) is on Citizenship since 9/ll, and will be one of the
> >most
> > > > > radical anthologies at the college comp level. Anyway, in your
> >original
> > > >post
> > > > > you were talking about college kids. I think younger kids should
> >either
> > > >1)
> > > > > purchase a better designed pack or 2)not carry the books around so
> >much.
> > > > > 3)Maybe Daddy can give them a ride to school. You certainly can't
> >hold
> > > > > authors responsible for "kiddie back ache."
> > > >
> > > >Citizenship since 9/11! I can just imagine. You wouldnt dare to post
> > > >some of your drivel for us to laugh at, would you? From the same
> > > >lackwit who once sent me samples of his homebrewed poetry (Le mer!
> > > >Le mer!) and wanted to discuss with me the psychiatric medicines he
> > > >takes
> > > >
> > > >how can you call MY publications pretentious and boring seeing as you
> > > >have never read them? you are it seems as honest intellectually
> > > >as you are ethical in the renting of your slum houses in Oakland
> > > >
> > > >the article cited about the California-based movement against the
> > > >student backpack infamy is VERY interesting:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/24/education/24BACK.html
> > > ><< backpack.jpg >>
> > >
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