response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
Wayne Johnson
cadaobh2@brgnet.com
Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:04:50 -0500
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C'est moi pataphysic, no?
B
-----Original Message-----
From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Frances Morey
Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 3:09 PM
To: Wayne Johnson; Jon Ford; paramod@club-internet.fr;
michaele@ando.pair.com
Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Subject: RE: response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
Okay, Wayne,
I can well imagine a fish riding a bicycle, but a parrot? What gives?
Frances
"The Skinny on Weight Loss: One Woman's
True Journey to Fat and Back" by Frances Morey
Order online
or by phone at 1-888-795-4274 Extension #276
--- On Jan 22, 2002, Wayne Johnson wrote:
> Well, Jonster...yuk, yuk...it takes one to know one.
>
>
> Meanwhile, my bicycle has developed a parrot.
>
> B
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Ford [mailto:jonmfordster@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:06 AM
> To: cadaobh2@brgnet.com; paramod@club-internet.fr; michaele@ando.pair.com
> Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> Subject: Re: response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
>
> Wayne-- this is an uncanny post-- it is as if you have penetrated the
> deep
> unconscious raving sub-mind of moronic Texans and other right-wing idiots
> everywhere! And of course, Mike fits in there somewhere-- even though,
> ironically, he is in some ways quite the francophile!
>
> Jon
>
>
> >From: "Wayne Johnson"
> >To: "Joseph H. Rowe" ,
> "Michael Eisenstadt"
> >
> >CC:
> >Subject: response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:59:32 -0500
> >
> >Those Frenchified deGaullistas, fluer-de-lis yellow journalistic
> >anti-American Papists are NOT to be trusted. Who can take any man
> >seriously
> >whose name is Honore or Pierre for that matter. Real men have at
> least two
> >MANLY names like Joe and Bob and Billy and Butch, not Jean-Paul or
> Lucien
> >or
> >Auguste. What a bunch of poofs! Our British cousins no better and,
> after
> >many, many, many generations of warfare and intra-club breeding (when
> not
> >co-mingling with Germans) have come to think of the French as
> "Foreigners"
> >if not simply...frogs. Like who wants to read a
> "newspaper" named for an
> >Italian opera? You can't be serious.
> >
> >As we here in the Old Dominion well know, only the Rev. Moon's
> Washington
> >Times kind of newspaper can be trusted to tell the Truth and the
> Whole
> >Truth
> >just like God and Jesus and Martin Luther and Father Coughlin and Pat
> >Robertson intended it to be told. I mean, come on, can you have any
> >respect
> >for a culture that eats snails? Yukk. Real culture eat cattle
> testicles
> >and brains. How do think the Bush Family (in all there
> Minionesqueness)
> >got
> >to be so darn smart? How do you think it was that Ken Lay was able to
> fool
> >all those people and run off with their money? Not from eating slugs
> and
> >snails, I'll tell you. Nosirree, these men ate VERTEBRATES and drank
> beer
> >(back before GWB found Jesus, he had found Bud & Coors & Lone
> Star & Shiner
> >& Falstaff and other REAL AMERICAN beers. No St. Pauli ale for
> him.
> >Nosir!) Only Frogs and
> >California-limp-wristed-quiche-sucking-commie-tree-huggers drink
> wine.
> >(Unless, of course, it is real German-American-Texican wine from New
> >Braunsfels. Or Killeen. As in the treasured 1997 vintage Chateau
> du
> >Goethe Gewurstramminer! )
> >
> >No sir. You are better off digging out your old Fulton Lewis Jr.
> tapes and
> >listening to them.
> >
> >Bubba
> >
> >(Life time subscriptions to the Star are available at really good
> rates.
> >There are still a couple of hundred issues with the Hubble photographs
> of
> >Heaven available at lowered cost to you, dear readers.)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
> >[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Joseph H.
> Rowe
> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:51 AM
> >To: Michael Eisenstadt
> >Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
> >
> >
> > >
> > >I wouldnt take what Joe Rowe forwarded very seriously. The
> > >Figaro is not itself a very serious newspaper and the notion
> > >that Osama would check in to the American Hospital in Dubai
> > >for a procedure last summer beggars belief. At least my belief.
> >
> > >Mike Eisenstadt
> >
> > Mike, I'm not sure what your criteria for a
> "serious:" newspaper
> >are. Le Figaro is one of the top establishment dailies in France, and
> >whether or not you agree with its politics (which I generally don't),
> it is
> >at least as "serious" a paper as any big American daily
> owned by a giant
> >media corporation. It has a highly professional staff of
> international
> >correspondents and reporters. Major writers have occasionally written
> >articles for it, including Jean Paulhan, André Malraux, and others.
> > Le Figaro can be criticized for many things, but it is
> absolutely
> >not a scandal-sheet or sensationalist tabloid, as you seem to
> insinuate.
> >And if you suppose for one moment that the TOTAL BLACKOUT of this
> story in
> >the mainstream American press is due to the wise discrimination of
> >American editors, who agree with you that Le Figaro is "not
> serious" (and
> >their rags supposedly are!), then either you are incredibly naive ---
> which
> >I know not to be the case --- or else you are rationalizing your own
> >reluctance to admit that you, too, mon cher ami, are capable of
> being
> >misled and fooled by the American media. I say this because you
> curiously
> >had nothing at all to say about the essay's _other_ important
> evidence
> >that the CIA had ample, serious warnings about an impending suicide
> >airliner attack, and did nothing about it. This evidence is
> thoroughly
> >documented, and there is even more of it at the websites mentioned.
> This
> >would support the thesis that the CIA was uninterested in going after
> bin
> >Laden until the time was "right" ---- whether or not Le
> Figaro's source
> >turns out to be reliable.
> > I personally don't believe in an active conspiracy, but the
> >evidence seems to indicate a passive one: "OK, if those damn
> democrats
> >won't give us a proper military budget, we'll let them find out what
> >terrorism is really all about!" Nevertheless, such a passive
> conspiracy
> >would be almost as heinous and criminal as an active one, at least in
> my
> >system of ethics. If such a conspiracy of deliberate negligence does
> exist,
> >as the evidence suggests, then it has certainly achieved its
> objective, in
> >spades: a blank check from terrified taxpayers to the
> military-industrial
> >complex, a devaluing of dissent and civil rights, and a very
> promising
> >replacement for the Cold War.
> > I recommend that you (or any other reader of this) visit the
> >website http://www.copvcia.com and inform yourself, before engaing in
> more
> >polemics about a whole area of current events of which you are bound
> to be
> >ignorant, if you depend only on the likes of the New York Times, the
> >Washington Post, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, etc, etc..... to find out about
> >current events.
> >
> >
> >Joseph
> >
> >Joseph Rowe
> >chez Arcosud
> >1, rue Constance, code porte 0118
> >75018 Paris, France
> >
> >tel. (331) 42 55 18 92
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> =
austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Frances Morey<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, January =
22, 2002
3:09 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Wayne Johnson; Jon =
Ford;
paramod@club-internet.fr; michaele@ando.pair.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> =
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: response to =
the
response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique</span></font></p>
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Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Okay, Wayne, <br>
I can well imagine a fish riding a bicycle, but a parrot? What gives? =
<br>
Frances <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
"The Skinny on Weight Loss: One Woman's <br>
True Journey to Fat and Back" by Frances Morey <br>
Order online <www.xlibris.com/bookstore><br>
or by phone at 1-888-795-4274 Extension #276 <br>
<br>
--- On Jan 22, 2002, Wayne Johnson <cadaobh2@brgnet.com>wrote: <br>
> Well, Jonster...yuk, yuk...it takes one to know one. <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Meanwhile, my bicycle has developed a parrot. <br>
> <br>
> B <br>
> <br>
> -----Original Message----- <br>
> From: Jon Ford [mailto:jonmfordster@hotmail.com] <br>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:06 AM <br>
> To: cadaobh2@brgnet.com; paramod@club-internet.fr; =
michaele@ando.pair.com <br>
> Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net <br>
> Subject: Re: response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique =
<br>
> <br>
> Wayne-- this is an uncanny post-- it is as if you have penetrated =
the <br>
> deep <br>
> unconscious raving sub-mind of moronic Texans and other right-wing =
idiots <br>
> everywhere! And of course, Mike fits in there somewhere-- even =
though, <br>
> ironically, he is in some ways quite the francophile! <br>
> <br>
> Jon <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> >From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh2@brgnet.com><br>
> >To: "Joseph H. Rowe" <paramod@club-internet.fr>, <br>
> "Michael Eisenstadt" <br>
> ><michaele@ando.pair.com> <br>
> >CC: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net><br>
> >Subject: response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique =
<br>
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:59:32 -0500 <br>
> > <br>
> >Those Frenchified deGaullistas, fluer-de-lis yellow =
journalistic <br>
> >anti-American Papists are NOT to be trusted. Who can take any =
man <br>
> >seriously <br>
> >whose name is Honore or Pierre for that matter. Real men have =
at <br>
> least two <br>
> >MANLY names like Joe and Bob and Billy and Butch, not Jean-Paul =
or <br>
> Lucien <br>
> >or <br>
> >Auguste. What a bunch of poofs! Our British cousins no better =
and, <br>
> after <br>
> >many, many, many generations of warfare and intra-club breeding =
(when <br>
> not <br>
> >co-mingling with Germans) have come to think of the French as =
<br>
> "Foreigners" <br>
> >if not simply...frogs. Like who wants to read a <br>
> "newspaper" named for an <br>
> >Italian opera? You can't be serious. <br>
> > <br>
> >As we here in the Old Dominion well know, only the Rev. Moon's =
<br>
> Washington <br>
> >Times kind of newspaper can be trusted to tell the Truth and =
the <br>
> Whole <br>
> >Truth <br>
> >just like God and Jesus and Martin Luther and Father Coughlin =
and Pat <br>
> >Robertson intended it to be told. I mean, come on, can you have =
any <br>
> >respect <br>
> >for a culture that eats snails? Yukk. Real culture eat cattle =
<br>
> testicles <br>
> >and brains. How do think the Bush Family (in all there <br>
> Minionesqueness) <br>
> >got <br>
> >to be so darn smart? How do you think it was that Ken Lay was =
able to <br>
> fool <br>
> >all those people and run off with their money? Not from eating =
slugs <br>
> and <br>
> >snails, I'll tell you. Nosirree, these men ate VERTEBRATES and =
drank <br>
> beer <br>
> >(back before GWB found Jesus, he had found Bud & Coors =
& Lone <br>
> Star & Shiner <br>
> >& Falstaff and other REAL AMERICAN beers. No St. Pauli ale =
for <br>
> him. <br>
> >Nosir!) Only Frogs and <br>
> >California-limp-wristed-quiche-sucking-commie-tree-huggers =
drink <br>
> wine. <br>
> >(Unless, of course, it is real German-American-Texican wine =
from New <br>
> >Braunsfels. Or Killeen. As in the treasured 1997 vintage =
Chateau <br>
> du <br>
> >Goethe Gewurstramminer! ) <br>
> > <br>
> >No sir. You are better off digging out your old Fulton Lewis =
Jr. <br>
> tapes and <br>
> >listening to them. <br>
> > <br>
> >Bubba <br>
> > <br>
> >(Life time subscriptions to the Star are available at really =
good <br>
> rates. <br>
> >There are still a couple of hundred issues with the Hubble =
photographs
<br>
> of <br>
> >Heaven available at lowered cost to you, dear readers.) <br>
> > <br>
> >-----Original Message----- <br>
> >From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net <br>
> >[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of =
Joseph H. <br>
> Rowe <br>
> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:51 AM <br>
> >To: Michael Eisenstadt <br>
> >Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net <br>
> >Subject: response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > > <br>
> > >I wouldnt take what Joe Rowe forwarded very seriously. The =
<br>
> > >Figaro is not itself a very serious newspaper and the =
notion <br>
> > >that Osama would check in to the American Hospital in =
Dubai <br>
> > >for a procedure last summer beggars belief. At least my =
belief. <br>
> > <br>
> > >Mike Eisenstadt <br>
> > <br>
> > Mike, I'm not sure what your criteria for a <br>
> "serious:" newspaper <br>
> >are. Le Figaro is one of the top establishment dailies in =
France, and <br>
> >whether or not you agree with its politics (which I generally =
don't), <br>
> it is <br>
> >at least as "serious" a paper as any big American =
daily <br>
> owned by a giant <br>
> >media corporation. It has a highly professional staff of <br>
> international <br>
> >correspondents and reporters. Major writers have occasionally =
written <br>
> >articles for it, including Jean Paulhan, Andr=E9 Malraux, and =
others. <br>
> > Le Figaro can be criticized for many things, but it is <br>
> absolutely <br>
> >not a scandal-sheet or sensationalist tabloid, as you seem to =
<br>
> insinuate. <br>
> >And if you suppose for one moment that the TOTAL BLACKOUT of =
this <br>
> story in <br>
> >the mainstream American press is due to the wise discrimination =
of <br>
> >American editors, who agree with you that Le Figaro is =
"not <br>
> serious" (and <br>
> >their rags supposedly are!), then either you are incredibly =
naive --- <br>
> which <br>
> >I know not to be the case --- or else you are rationalizing =
your own <br>
> >reluctance to admit that you, too, mon cher ami, are capable of =
<br>
> being <br>
> >misled and fooled by the American media. I say this because you =
<br>
> curiously <br>
> >had nothing at all to say about the essay's _other_ important =
<br>
> evidence <br>
> >that the CIA had ample, serious warnings about an impending =
suicide <br>
> >airliner attack, and did nothing about it. This evidence is =
<br>
> thoroughly <br>
> >documented, and there is even more of it at the websites =
mentioned. <br>
> This <br>
> >would support the thesis that the CIA was uninterested in going =
after <br>
> bin <br>
> >Laden until the time was "right" ---- whether or not =
Le <br>
> Figaro's source <br>
> >turns out to be reliable. <br>
> > I personally don't believe in an active conspiracy, but the =
<br>
> >evidence seems to indicate a passive one: "OK, if those =
damn <br>
> democrats <br>
> >won't give us a proper military budget, we'll let them find out =
what <br>
> >terrorism is really all about!" Nevertheless, such a =
passive <br>
> conspiracy <br>
> >would be almost as heinous and criminal as an active one, at =
least in <br>
> my <br>
> >system of ethics. If such a conspiracy of deliberate negligence =
does <br>
> exist, <br>
> >as the evidence suggests, then it has certainly achieved its =
<br>
> objective, in <br>
> >spades: a blank check from terrified taxpayers to the <br>
> military-industrial <br>
> >complex, a devaluing of dissent and civil rights, and a very =
<br>
> promising <br>
> >replacement for the Cold War. <br>
> > I recommend that you (or any other reader of this) visit the =
<br>
> >website http://www.copvcia.com and inform yourself, before =
engaing in <br>
> more <br>
> >polemics about a whole area of current events of which you are =
bound <br>
> to be <br>
> >ignorant, if you depend only on the likes of the New York =
Times, the <br>
> >Washington Post, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, etc, etc..... to find out =
about <br>
> >current events. <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> >Joseph <br>
> > <br>
> >Joseph Rowe <br>
> >chez Arcosud <br>
> >1, rue Constance, code porte 0118 <br>
> >75018 Paris, France <br>
> > <br>
> >tel. (331) 42 55 18 92 <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> > <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> _________________________________________________________________ =
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