response to the response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique

Tue, 22 Jan 2002 06:56:51 -0800 (PST)

Jon, didn't you used to be from Texas? Or was that
your moronic, raving evil twin bro?
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Billy Jim

--- Wayne Johnson <cadaobh2@brgnet.com> wrote:
> Well, Jonster...yuk, yuk...it takes one to know one.
> 
> 
> Meanwhile, my bicycle has developed a parrot.
> 
> B
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jon Ford [mailto:jonmfordster@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2002 12:06 AM
> To: cadaobh2@brgnet.com; paramod@club-internet.fr;
> michaele@ando.pair.com
> Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> Subject: Re: response to the response to Mike
> Eisenstadt's critique
> 
> Wayne-- this is an uncanny post-- it is as if you
> have penetrated the deep
> unconscious raving sub-mind of moronic Texans and
> other right-wing idiots
> everywhere! And of course, Mike fits in there
> somewhere-- even though,
> ironically, he is in some ways quite the
> francophile!
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> >From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh2@brgnet.com>
> >To: "Joseph H. Rowe" <paramod@club-internet.fr>,
> "Michael Eisenstadt"
> ><michaele@ando.pair.com>
> >CC: <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> >Subject: response to the response to Mike
> Eisenstadt's critique
> >Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 15:59:32 -0500
> >
> >Those Frenchified deGaullistas, fluer-de-lis yellow
> journalistic
> >anti-American Papists are NOT to be trusted.  Who
> can take any man
> >seriously
> >whose name is Honore or Pierre for that matter. 
> Real men have at least two
> >MANLY names like Joe and Bob and Billy and Butch,
> not Jean-Paul or Lucien
> >or
> >Auguste.  What a bunch of poofs!  Our British
> cousins no better and, after
> >many, many, many generations of warfare and
> intra-club breeding (when not
> >co-mingling with Germans) have come to think of the
> French as "Foreigners"
> >if not simply...frogs.   Like who wants to read a
> "newspaper" named for an
> >Italian opera?  You can't be serious.
> >
> >As we here in the Old Dominion well know, only the
> Rev. Moon's Washington
> >Times kind of newspaper can be trusted to tell the
> Truth and the Whole
> >Truth
> >just like God and Jesus and Martin Luther and
> Father Coughlin and Pat
> >Robertson intended it to be told.  I mean, come on,
> can you have any
> >respect
> >for a culture that eats snails?  Yukk.  Real
> culture eat cattle testicles
> >and brains.  How do think the Bush Family (in all
> there Minionesqueness)
> >got
> >to be so darn smart?  How do you think it was that
> Ken Lay was able to fool
> >all those people and run off with their money?  Not
> from eating slugs and
> >snails, I'll tell you.  Nosirree, these men ate
> VERTEBRATES and drank beer
> >(back before GWB found Jesus, he had found Bud &
> Coors & Lone Star & Shiner
> >& Falstaff and other REAL AMERICAN beers.  No St.
> Pauli ale for him.
> >Nosir!)  Only Frogs and
>
>California-limp-wristed-quiche-sucking-commie-tree-huggers
> drink wine.
> >(Unless, of course, it is real
> German-American-Texican wine from New
> >Braunsfels.  Or  Killeen.  As in the treasured 1997
> vintage Chateau du
> >Goethe Gewurstramminer! )
> >
> >No sir.  You are better off digging out your old
> Fulton Lewis Jr. tapes and
> >listening to them.
> >
> >Bubba
> >
> >(Life time subscriptions to the Star are available
> at really good rates.
> >There are still a couple of hundred issues with the
> Hubble photographs of
> >Heaven available at lowered cost to you, dear
> readers.)
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
> >[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On
> Behalf Of Joseph H. Rowe
> >Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 11:51 AM
> >To: Michael Eisenstadt
> >Cc: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: response to Mike Eisenstadt's critique
> >
> >
> > >
> > >I wouldnt take what Joe Rowe forwarded very
> seriously. The
> > >Figaro is not itself a very serious newspaper and
> the notion
> > >that Osama would check in to the American
> Hospital in Dubai
> > >for a procedure last summer beggars belief. At
> least my belief.
> >
> > >Mike Eisenstadt
> >
> >         Mike, I'm not sure what your criteria for
> a "serious:" newspaper
> >are. Le Figaro is one of the top establishment
> dailies in France, and
> >whether or not you agree with its politics (which I
> generally don't), it is
> >at least as "serious" a paper as any big American
> daily owned by a giant
> >media corporation. It has a highly professional
> staff of international
> >correspondents and reporters. Major writers have
> occasionally written
> >articles for it, including Jean Paulhan, André
> Malraux, and others.
> >         Le Figaro can be criticized for many
> things, but it is absolutely
> >not a scandal-sheet or sensationalist tabloid, as
> you seem to insinuate.
> >And if you suppose for one moment that the TOTAL
> BLACKOUT of this story  in
> >the mainstream American press is due to the wise
> discrimination of
> >American editors, who agree with you that Le Figaro
> is "not serious" (and
> >their rags supposedly are!), then either you are
> incredibly naive --- which
> >I know not to be the case --- or else you are 
> rationalizing your own
> >reluctance to admit that you, too, mon cher ami,
> are capable of  being
> >misled and fooled by the American media. I say this
> because you curiously
> >had nothing at all to say about the essay's _other_
>  important evidence
> >that the CIA had ample, serious warnings about an
> impending suicide
> >airliner attack, and did nothing about it. This
> evidence is thoroughly
> >documented, and there is even more of it at the 
> websites mentioned. This
> >would support the thesis that the CIA was
> uninterested in going after bin
> >Laden until the time was "right" ----  whether or
> not Le Figaro's source
> >turns out to be reliable.
> >         I personally don't believe in an active
> conspiracy, but the
> >evidence seems to indicate a passive one: "OK, if
> those damn democrats
> >won't give us a proper military budget, we'll let
> them find out what
> >terrorism is really all about!" Nevertheless, such
> a passive conspiracy
> >would be almost as heinous and criminal as an
> active one, at least in my
> >system of ethics. If such a conspiracy of
> deliberate negligence does exist,
> >as the evidence suggests, then it has certainly
> achieved its objective, in
> >spades: a blank check from terrified taxpayers to
> the military-industrial
> >complex,  a devaluing of dissent and civil rights,
> and a very promising
> >replacement for the Cold War.
> >         I recommend that you (or any other reader
> of this) visit the
> >website http://www.copvcia.com and inform yourself,
> before engaing in more
> >polemics about a whole area of current events of
> which you are bound to be
> >ignorant, if you depend only on the likes of the
> New York Times, the
> >Washington Post, CBS, NBC, NPR, PBS, etc, etc.....
> to find out about
> >current events.
> 
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