Poppy & James Baker called off Osama Investigation
Wayne Johnson
cadaobh2@brgnet.com
Thu, 10 Jan 2002 19:08:46 -0500
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Well, in the immortal words of FDR…"yes, he's a Facist, but he's OUR
Facist." Substitute the word "terrorist" or "oil whore" or anything else
that strikes your fancy.
B.
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From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Jim Baldauf
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:22 PM
To: austin-ghetto-list
Subject: Fw: Poppy & James Baker called off Osama Investigation
Politex, www.bushwatch.com <http://www.bushwatch.com> , 11/8/01,
The Sidney (Australia) Morning Herald
<http://www.smh.com.au/news/0111/08/world/world4.html> story that even Matt
Drudge has reported was a summary of a recent report on BBC TV:
"United States special agents were told to back off the bin Laden family and
the Saudi royals soon after George Bush became president, although that has
all changed since September 11, a BBC television program has claimed."
The summary goes on to note that the FBI had been investigating Bin Laden
family activities in the U.S. prior to Sept. 11. One relative of Osama had a
relationship with a suspected terrorist organization that had been
investigated " but for some reason [FBI] agents were pulled off the trail,"
according to the BBC report. Speaking of similar previous U.S. behavior, a
former head of the U.S. visa bureau in Saidi Arabia says on camera, " I
complained there. I complained here in Washington ... and I was ignored.
What I was doing was giving visas to terrorists, recruited by the CIA and
Osama bin Laden to come back to the United States for training to be used in
the war in Afghanistan against the then Soviets."
The Sidney summary concludes, " The [BBC] program said it had been told by a
highly placed source in a US intelligence agency there had always been
"constraints" on investigating Saudis, but under [present] President George
Bush it had become much worse. After the elections, the intelligence
agencies were told to "back off" from investigating the bin Laden family and
the Saudi royals. The policy was reversed after September 11, it reported."
The implied questions from the story are pretty clear: If the details of the
report are true, why did the U.S. back off from investigating possible
terrorist groups prior to Sept. 11, and why did the "constraints" on
"investigating Saudis" grow "much worse" under Bush? As you may know, Bush
Watch has two special reports on related questions, Bush And Bin Laden Money
<http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm> and Bush And The Arab-American
<http://www.bushwatch.net/bushterrorists.htm> . Another Bush Watch special
report that seems relevant is Bush And Central Asian Oil
<http://www.bushwatch.net/oil.htm> .
Surprisingly, the Sidney summary of the BBC TV report doesn't mention the
name of the reporter, Greg Palast, who is best known for his BBC documentary
on vote manipulation in Forida during the Gore-Bush election, which you can
see from his web site <http://www.gregpalast.com/> . In a Guardian story
yesterday <http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=0> , "FBI AND
US SPY AGENTS SAY BUSH SPIKED BIN LADEN PROBES BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER," also
posted on his web site, Palast writes that the BBC report on the Bin Laden
family will soon be posted on his web site. His Guardian story adds a number
of details to the BBC report.
>From viewing the TV report yesterday when it was still posted on the BBC
site <http://news.bbc.co.uk/> , I recall three points. After Sept. 11 the
Bin Landen family severed its financial connections with Carlyle, thus
cutting its financial connection to both the Bush family and James Baker
through Carlyle (see Bush and Bin Laden Money
<http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm> ), on Sept. 12 members of the Bin
Laden family living in the U.S. were flown back to Saudi Arabia through U.S.
government arrangements, and an official on the BBC show attempted to debunk
Palast's report by claiming that the CIA, not the FBI would have been
investigating the Bin Laden family proior to Sept. 11, so the FBI documents
alluded to on the show must be bogus. He did not explain why the CIA, and
not the FBI, would be investigating possible domestic terrorism.
I don't think we've heard the last of this story, Jeff. --Politex,
www.bushwatch.com, 11/8/01
(c)copyright 2001, may be reprinted with attribution and link to bush watch
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]<b><span =
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Baldauf<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January =
09, 2002
11:22 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
austin-ghetto-list<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Fw: Poppy & =
James
Baker called off Osama Investigation</span></font></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><strong><b><font =
size=3D3
color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Politex,
<a href=3D"http://www.bushwatch.com">www.bushwatch.com</a>, 11/8/01, =
</span></font></b></strong><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
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<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>The <a
href=3D"http://www.smh.com.au/news/0111/08/world/world4.html" =
target=3Dnew>Sidney
(Australia) Morning Herald</a> story that even Matt Drudge has reported =
was a
summary of a recent report on BBC TV: </span></font></b><b><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>"United
States special agents were told to back off the bin Laden family and the =
Saudi
royals soon after George Bush became president, although that has all =
changed
since September 11, a BBC television program has claimed." =
</span></font></b><b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>The
summary goes on to note that the FBI had been investigating Bin Laden =
family
activities in the U.S. prior to Sept. 11. One relative of Osama had a
relationship with a suspected terrorist organization that had been =
investigated
" but for some reason [FBI] agents were pulled off the trail,"
according to the BBC report. Speaking of similar previous U.S. behavior, =
a
former head of the U.S. visa bureau in Saidi Arabia says on camera, =
" I
complained there. I complained here in Washington ... and I was ignored. =
What I
was doing was giving visas to terrorists, recruited by the CIA and Osama =
bin
Laden to come back to the United States for training to be used in the =
war in
Afghanistan against the then Soviets." </span></font></b><b><font =
size=3D2
color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>The
Sidney summary concludes, " The [BBC] program said it had been told =
by a
highly placed source in a US intelligence agency there had always been
"constraints" on investigating Saudis, but under [present] =
President
George Bush it had become much worse. After the elections, the =
intelligence
agencies were told to "back off" from investigating the bin =
Laden
family and the Saudi royals. The policy was reversed after September 11, =
it
reported." </span></font></b><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext;
font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>The
implied questions from the story are pretty clear: If the details of the =
report
are true, why did the U.S. back off from investigating possible =
terrorist
groups prior to Sept. 11, and why did the "constraints" on
"investigating Saudis" grow "much worse" under Bush? =
As you
may know, Bush Watch has two special reports on related questions, <a
href=3D"http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm" target=3Dnew>Bush And =
Bin Laden
Money</a> and <a href=3D"http://www.bushwatch.net/bushterrorists.htm" =
target=3Dnew>Bush
And The Arab-American</a>. Another Bush Watch special report that seems
relevant is <a href=3D"http://www.bushwatch.net/oil.htm" =
target=3Dnew>Bush And
Central Asian Oil</a>. </span></font></b><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack
face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b><=
/p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>Surprisingly,
the Sidney summary of the BBC TV report doesn't mention the name of the
reporter, Greg Palast, who is best known for his BBC documentary on vote
manipulation in Forida during the Gore-Bush election, which you can see =
from
his <a href=3D"http://www.gregpalast.com/" target=3Dnew>web site</a>. In =
a <a
href=3D"http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=3D103&row=3D0" =
target=3Dnew>Guardian
story yesterday</a>, "FBI AND US SPY AGENTS SAY BUSH SPIKED BIN =
LADEN
PROBES BEFORE 11 SEPTEMBER," also posted on his web site, Palast =
writes
that the BBC report on the Bin Laden family will soon be posted on his =
web
site. His Guardian story adds a number of details to the BBC report. =
</span></font></b><b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext;font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span>=
</font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>From
viewing the TV report yesterday when it was still posted on the <a
href=3D"http://news.bbc.co.uk/" target=3Dnew>BBC site</a>, I recall =
three points.
After Sept. 11 the Bin Landen family severed its financial connections =
with
Carlyle, thus cutting its financial connection to both the Bush family =
and
James Baker through Carlyle (see <a
href=3D"http://www.bushwatch.net/bushmoney.htm" target=3Dnew>Bush and =
Bin Laden
Money</a>), on Sept. 12 members of the Bin Laden family living in the =
U.S. were
flown back to Saudi Arabia through U.S. government arrangements, and an
official on the BBC show attempted to debunk Palast's report by claiming =
that
the CIA, not the FBI would have been investigating the Bin Laden family =
proior
to Sept. 11, so the FBI documents alluded to on the show must be bogus. =
He did
not explain why the CIA, and not the FBI, would be investigating =
possible
domestic terrorism. </span></font></b><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:win=
dowtext;
font-weight:bold'><o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack =
face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>I don't
think we've heard the last of this story, Jeff. --Politex, =
www.bushwatch.com,
11/8/01</span></font></b><font size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> =
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face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'=
>(c)copyright
2001, may be reprinted with attribution and link to bush =
watch</span></font></b><font
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