pataphysics

Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:45:19 -0800 (PST)

Little did I know you carried on the UT-radition du
Pataphysique. So, where can I get some really good art
(gif or jpg) of Bosse-de-Nage?
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Billy Jim

--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Of course, Jim-bo, I knew Shattuck well, and
> attended his great party for 
> Alain-Robbe Grillet, and put on my own conference on
> Pataphysics in my time 
> at UT at which the red-bearded one spoke, and have
> staged Jarry's plays, 
> have most of Jarry's works, translated the works of
> Rene Daumal,  etc. It is 
> "les autres" who need to be enlightened on this
> subject if you are to 
> introduce it in these regions of the cyber. And that
> web page was in 
> Portuguese! He-hah.
> 
> Jon
> 
> 
> >From: Jim Strong <strongjim@yahoo.com>
> >To: Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com>,
> cadaobh2@brgnet.com,  
> >austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
> >Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 01:42:02 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Surely Fordster, you have not forgotten that our
> >esteemed UT English instructor Roger Shattuck held
> the
> >North American Chair of Pornosophy in the College
> du
> >Pataphysique? Perhaps you were too Paisano-crazed
> to
> >remember his ramblings at the parties about that
> >tremendous responsibility that had been "thrust"
> upon
> >him?
> >-------------------------------------------------
> >The "weird" web page you cite references some of
> the
> >same material (including some background on the
> famous
> >Jean-Paul Poulhan quote) that is found in the
> infamous
> >Evergreen Review edition on Pataphysics that came
> out
> >in the early 60's. I think it may even have had a
> >piece by Shattuck in it???
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >I "thank" Bubba's point is - in and of itself - a
> >Pataphysical one, and appropriately wicked. In
> fact, I
> >have come to the conclusion that Bubba is a rare
> jewel
> >- although not one who occupies the central part of
> >the Lotus sitting directly beside Lord Buddha -
> (and a
> >Certified Hoot as well). To quote Neil Young's song
> >(modified for gender) "Long May He Run."
> >---------------------------------------------------
> >I think ole J.P. Sartre handled the existence thing
> >purt well in "L'etrat et le Neant," non?
> >cf:
> http://www.multimania.com/nrub/existenceautrui.htm
> >---------------------------------------------------
> >Now that there page is in Frenchie - not Portagee,
> >Fordster.
> >---------------------------------------------------
> >Finally, to be a true "Experte in Matiere de
> >Pataphysique," Jon, you must have owned and driven
> a
> >Renault 4-CV for at least 18 months and have
> replaced
> >the trans-axel at least twice during that time.
>
>----------------------------------------------------
> >As fer the vet'rans, I fall back upon my ability to
> >quote Red Sovine lyrics at length for protection,
> and
> >I hope you are not including the pretentious
> Persian
> >hordes of Saddam H in the descriptor "Arab." As one
> of
> >my close friends Skip the LRRP from the Nam would
> say,
> >"it's all a bunch of shit." I don't know many
> people
> >who have been through it though, who would  care to
> >describe themselves as any kind of "killer
> >extraoridinare."
>
>----------------------------------------------------
> >War itself is the ultimate absurdist experience. It
> >doesn't really prove, justify or sanctify anything
> -
> >it just tends to rearrange boundaries and
> hegemonies,
> >and to remove real or perceived "threats" (from the
> >"victor's" perspective). The characterizations of a
> >war being just or necessary or honorable are the
> >icings we put on that cake based upon our own
> beliefs.
> >---------------------------
> >;&>
> >Yours humbly
> >Billy Jim [aka Ubu Roi Don Goethe-Grosse]
> >---------------------------
> >
> >
> >--- Jon Ford <jonmfordster@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > I come home from my exclusive seminar on "Say
> Know
> > > to Drugs" at which I
> > > learned about a famous Hollywood director known
> to
> > > sit naked before a
> > > full-length mirror feeding his anus cocaine with
> a
> > > tiny spoon, and what do I
> > > find? Even more madness. Buba seems to be making
> > > some existenial pun on
> > > "exit" (as in "No Exit"?) and "exist" (as in
> being
> > > and non-being?)Or maybe
> > > he just can't spell. Both Manson and Osama have
> > > "exited" but so far as I
> > > know they both presently  exist-- Manson in
> jail,
> > > Osama most likely in
> > > Pakistan.Even if they are both dead. they will
> > > continue to exist in our
> > > hearts( or elsewhere in our anatomies, like
> > > veritable burrs in the saddle).
> > > What does it mean to exist, anyway?
> > > On the other hand,  Billy Jim-Bob sends us a
> weird
> > > web-page in Portuguese, a
> > > language which makes no sense to me at all-- why
> > > don't they just speak
> > > Spanish? Actually, the page looked kind of
> > > interesting, but translation,
> > > please! And while you're at it, Billy Jim, I'm
> an
> > > expert in Pataphysics, but
> > > I'll wager many on the list are unfamiliar with
> it.
> > > One leading
> > > 'pataphysician, Boris Vian, was known to remark
> that
> > > he felt all veterans
> > > should be shot, because they return from the
> wars
> > > and persist in talking
> > > about the nobility of it all-- sentiments  I
> hardily
> > > snicker at, but dare
> > > not agree with too openly, for there are too
> many
> > > veterans on this list,
> > > including the Arab-killer extraordinaire, der
> > > Mike-meister!
> > >
> > > And let's hear more from Forrest Gunther, a true
> > > Pataphysician if there ever
> > > were one, even if he does not exist at all!
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Wayne Johnson" <cadaobh2@brgnet.com>
> > > >To: "Jim Strong" <strongjim@yahoo.com>, "Jon
> Ford"
> > > ><jonmfordster@hotmail.com>,
> > > <austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net>
> > > >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
> > > >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:10:11 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Bubba calls 'em as he understands 'em.  In
> other
> > > worlds they gotta have
> > > >demonstrative and verifiable existences.  In
> the
> > > words of Waldenheim Wiest
> > > >von Goethe, late of Taylor..."belief ain't the
> same
> > > as knowledge."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > >From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
> > >
> >[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On
> > > Behalf Of Jim Strong
> > > >Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 5:42 PM
> > > >To: Wayne Johnson; Jon Ford;
> > > austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
> > > >Subject: RE: Manson-Osama connection?
> > > >
> > > >Or, as the esteemed Pataphysician said,
> > > >"Jean-Paul Poulhan ne existe pas"
> > > >cf:
> http://www.artesonline.al.org.br/4/arte2.htm
> > >
> >-------------------------------------------------
> 
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