[Austin-ghetto-list] Re: Pat Buchanan on Israel

[Jon Ford]

Roger--It is absurd to rave like Mike does about how if you quarrel with the 
US position on Israel(tons of arms support, all Palestinians are terrorists, 
etc), then, hotsi totsi, you're a Nazi-like, anti-semitic Pat Buchananite. 
Your reason for so doing might be very different from Hitler's or 
Pat's.[note: I'm not even sure what your position on Israel is, but let's 
assume you have some reservations about the US all-out support approach.]

Basic illogic: All Nazi-type(or Buchanan-like) thinkers criticize Israel or 
the US position on Israel.
You criticize Israel or the US position on Israel.
Therefore, you are a Nazi-type (or Buchanan-like) thinker.

This follows the fallacious syllogism of:

All dogs are tan.
You are tan.
Therefore, you are a dog.

Hope this clears things up!

Jon


>From: Roger Baker <rcbaker@infohiwy.net>
>Reply-To: rcbaker@eden.infohwy.com
>To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
>Subject: Re: [Austin-ghetto-list] USA through other eyes
>Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2001 14:05:55 -0500
>
>Michael Eisenstadt wrote:
> >
> > Roger Baker wrote:
> >
> > > According to Mike's thinking, I should take care to quote only from 
>the
> > > references that Mike E. considers politically correct -- and according
> > > to his cartoon stereotypes of what my politics should be, and what I
> > > should read?
> >
> > read whatever you want and forward whatever you want. but at
> > least know the implications of what you are reading and be
> > prepared to defend such viewpoints. to be told that Arabs
> > hate jews and americans is not news. to tell us this in
> > sympathy with these people as this article did is to take
> > the same postion about the jews as the Arabs do or as Pat
> > Buchanan does. if your position about the jews is that of
> > Pat Buchanan's, say so and stop being coy. of course if
> > that IS your position, i will have a position vis-a-vis
> > your person at our next party.
> >
> > Peace,
> >
> > Mike
>
>This may be an easy matter to resolve. First, explain to me and the list
>whatever Pat Buchanan's position is. And then I can decide whether I
>agree with it. If not, then you won't have to go to all this bother at
>the party. -- Roger
>


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