[Austin-ghetto-list] War considerations

Roger Baker rcbaker@eden.infohwy.com
Mon, 24 Sep 2001 17:01:32 -0500


The problem in fighting a "war" like our latest one, is that this time
we are not playing the game by our by our own rules at all. 

We are instead fighting this war by the rules of Arab opinion, because
they have the obvious long run ability to control the oil we need, and
without much trouble. It looks like even the ruling Saudis may be
getting nervous (see way below). (Oil is paradoxically sinking sharply
in price at this moment because of a world economic slump, combined with
an acute sensitivity of oil price to its supply and demand).

According to an AP story this morning, part of the rules by which we
must now fight terrorism need to be that we do not bee seen to attack
Islamic Jehad, Hezzbolah, or Hamas in the process of dealing with
Osama's group. Otherwise we will polarize the Arab world against us. And
if we do take out Osama and his network, we need to do it without lots
of killing of innocents, and with enough evidence to convince average
Muslim that our war is just and limited in goals. 

I tend to agree with the Arab world on these ground rules of an
appropriate response to the terror attacks, but its not mine but Arab
opinion around the world that really counts.

Its just that the rules of war as determined by this troublesome Arab
opinion are, I think, not exactly what the Bush administration has in
mind. It seems to me they prefer a war against the Teliban with lots of
bombs involved; something not likely to win the hearts and minds of the
Arabs. 

Of course, you can always hope that Arab opinion will not
polarize against the US, as some reports like the AP story suggest 
is the real risk. -- Roger




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SERIOUS AND CONFUSING DEVELOPMENTS IN ISRAEL, EGYPT, SAUDI - KEY U.S. ALLIES
(english)
 
by Middle East Realities (MER) 11:14pm Sun Sep 23 '01 

There is a strange and growing tension coming from the Middle East this
weekend; and we don't mean from Afghanistan and Pakistan this time,
rather we mean from America's closest allies, Israel, Egypt and Saudi
Arabia. We're in no position to know for sure just what is happening.
But in each of these countries very unusual and potentially historic
developments are unfolding. 

 In Israel today Shimon Peres essentially boycotted the Sunday Cabinet
meeting after being ordered at the last minute by Ariel Sharon not to
meet with Yasser Arafat. At the same time Sharon made harsh statements
condemning Arafat once again as an arch unrepentent terrorist, and the
Israelis essentially put out an arrest warrant for the head of the
Arafat's Fatah "Tanzim" forces, Marwan Barghouti. Yet at the same time
Sharon also has mentioned in public a possible "Palestinian State",
possibly dangling this in front of Arafat under pressures from
the Americans, wondering if Arafat might just grab onto anything at this
point to keep him and his entourage alive.In this overall context Peres
had the following to say today and there are rumors he might resign
tomorrow if hedoesn't get his way, meet with Arafat, and offer him a way
out with a rump disjointed "Palestinian State" that ofcourse would not
be really a State but which the Americans could and would use for their
own purposes of the
moment: 

                           "When other countries and the peace of the
world 
                           were in danger, the US stood by their side.
And 
                           now, when the US is in danger, there is a
need to 
                           stand together with it. In the 53 years of
Israel's 
                           existence, there was not one request we made
to 
                           the US that was not answered, and now the US 
                           is asking Israel to hold meetings with the 
                           Palestinians to quiet down criticism in the
Muslim 
                           and Arab world... Tthe US is not requesting
that 
                           Israel make territorial concessions or give
up on 
                           its right of self-defense, but rather an
Israeli 
                           contribution to changing the atmosphere 
                           before [the US] sends its sons to battle." 

                           Shimon Peres 
                           Israeli Foreign Minister 

In Egypt the long-time American-sponsored most-of-the-time puppet
leader, Hosni Mubarak, longed joked about by his own people as "the
Laughing Cow", has said more than once now that Egypt is not going to
join the American "coalition" to "save the world from terrorism" -- even
though the Americans keep saying "you are either with or us against us."
Over the weekend Mubarak is quoted as publicly warning the Americans as
follows: 

                           "If you launch an attack against Afghanistan
or another 
                           country on your list of rogue states, you
will kill many 
                           innocent people, just as the terrorists
killed many of your 
                           people. Don't play the game of your enemy.
They want 
                           your reprisals to bring forth, from the blood
and ruins 
                           of your bombing, a new generation of
militants who 
                           will cry for revenge against the United
States." 

                           Hosni Mubarak 
                           President of Egypt 

 As for what is really going on in Saudi Arabia, that's even more
difficult to fathom right now, but the sketchy and not very clear
reports of a possible Palace Coup, with Crown Prince Abdullah and the
more nationalist and religious circles taking charge and essentially
sending King Fahd into de facto exile using the excuse that he is went
to Europe because he needs to be sure of the best medical care...
Well...who knows just what to believe at this point, though it is known
that an international team of some 2 dozen doctors has been in Riyahd
for some time now keeping Fahd alive and every conceiveable treatment
and facility is available for the King in Riyadh. On Saturday the
Washington Post did go with a careful front page story saying the Saudis
has indeed refused to allow the US to use the newly completed
best-in-the-region military Command Center to direct the new war.
Normally we would be very circumspect regarding the following reports
which may be originating from Israeli intelligence circles and may or
may not have validity. But under the urgent current circumstances and in
view of other surprising developments taking place we'll pass on these
reports with all the above caveats and then keep an eye on things: 


                           U.S. BEREFT OF ARAB COALITION AFTER 
                           SAUDI ARABIA BACKS OUT 

                           The United States has delayed the start 
                           of its offensive against Afghanistan and 
                           Osama Bin Laden, in retaliation for the 
                           terrorist strikes in New York and 
                           Washington, because of a dramatic 
                           turnaround of Arab support in the Middle
East. 
                           Saturday afternoon, it became clear that
events in 
                           Riyadh had dealt the final deathblow to the
US 
                           Secretary of State, Colin Powellís failed
efforts to 
                           create an Arab front to bolster the Bush 
                           administrationís world war on terror. 
                           The reason for King Fahd secret exit from
Saudi 
                           Arabia, followed by a large royal party, is 
                           believed by our most reliable sources to be a 
                           palace revolution sparked by differences in
the 
                           royal family over support for the US
offensive 
                           against Afghanistan, Osama Bin Ladenís terror 
                           network and other rogue targets. King Fahd
and 
                           his Sudeiri faction, including defense
minister 
                           Sultan, were in favor of letting the US place
assault 
                           forces in forward bases on Saudi soil; the 
                           conservative, religious Crown Prince
Abdullah, 
                           who runs the kingdom since King Fahd became
ill, 
                           overruled him, backed by the religious
establishment. 
                           As a result, Saudi Arabia refused to let the
US use 
                           the kingdomís new combined air operations 
                           command center at Prince Sultan Air Base near 
                           Riyadh, after Air Force Lt. Gen Charles Wald
had 
                           been dispatched to the base earlier this
week, to 
                           take command of US air forces assigned to the 
                           Middle East and Southwest Asia. 
                           His mission was to run the air war from the
new, 
                           sophisticated air base opened this summer, a
base 
                           linked to Al Dhafra in the United Arab
Emirates 
                           and Seeb in the Sultanate of Oman. The Saudi
base 
                           was also to have been the central command
post 
                           not only for the 175 aircraft already based
in the 
                           region for patrolling south Iraqís no-flight
zone, 
                           but also for directing attacks from other
bases in 
                           the region in the new war offensive. 
                           When General Wald landed in Saudi Arabia with 
                           his top aides on Tuesday, September 18, he
was 
                           told he had no command base. That was when
the 
                           feuding inside the royal house over its role
in the 
                           American war against terrorism reached its
climax. 
                           The monarchís defeat in the argument inside
the 
                           palace was apparently the main reason for his 
                           abrupt departure the next day, Wednesday, 
                           September 19. 
                           The Pentagon has since then been casting
about 
                           for replacement bases of operation and
holding up 
                           the onset of the scheduled US campaign.
Military 
                           sources believe that one of General Waldís
options 
                           for his command post is the Bahrain. Some of
the 
                           fighter craft due to have been based in Saudi 
                           Arabia have been moved to 
                           Incerlik, the big air base in South Turkey,
after 
                           Anakara made all its bases available for the 
                           American war effort, and the Uzbek military
airport 
                           of Tuzel, 15 km. from Tashkent. Large-scale
air and 
                           commando forces also landed Saturday in 
                           Tadjikistan, on the border of Afghanistan. 
                           The American forces are now laboring to catch
up 
                           with their schedule for the operation. 
                           The upset in Riydah also sent the Palestinian 
                           leader Yasser Arafat racing to Riydah to meet 
                           Crown Prince Abdullah and update his own 
                           strategy with the turn of events in the royal
house. 
                           Palestinian experts expect Arafat to turn
tail and 
                           back out of the accommodations he 
                           broached under US and European pressure ñ 
                           including his commitment to a ceasefire. 
                           According to Washington sources, 
                           the Bush administration realizes it has been
let 
                           down by the Arab world, chiefly the Saudis
and 
                           President Mubarak of Egypt, in its first
steps 
                           to launch an international campaign to defeat
world 
                           terrorism. It will go ahead, but not 
                           forget in a hurry. 

                           _____________________________________ 
                           SAUDIS IN FLIGHT 

                           King Fahd Bin Abdulaziz of Saudi 
                           Arabia has been secretly flown out of the
kingdom 
                           to his palace in Geneva, Switzerland. The
royal 
                           mobile hospital fitted aboard Boeing 757
HZ-HMED 
                           landed in the private VIP section of Geneva
airport 
                           ednesday afternoon, September 19. A palace 
                           conclave led by Crown Prince Abdullah, who 
                           effectively rules the kingdom, decided to
remove 
                           the chronically ailing monarch to safety,
fearing he 
                           might be stranded in the middle of a military
crisis 
                           arising from the impending US offensive in
the region. 
                           The royal hospital plane was accompanied by 
                           another craft of the royal flight carrying
the kingís 
                           family and entourage. 
                           The possibility of a major terrorist attack
on the 
                           royal palaces being sparked by the outbreak
of 
                           hostilities was also taken into account in
Riyadh. A 
                           group of princes was therefore carried to a
safe 
                           place in the additional fleet of 10 royal
aircraft that 
                           ferried members of the Saudi royal family to 
                           Geneva. More than a dozen Mercedes waited on 
                           the tarmac of Geneva International Airport to 
                           collect the royal arrivals. 
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