Green not allowed to fly because of war

Roger Baker rcbaker@eden.infohwy.com
Wed, 7 Nov 2001 00:25:03 -0800


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Here is what really happened.

There are two green organizations; there is the big main group that ran
Nader for Prez,  called "Green party of the United States", and 
recognized
internationally as part of the world Green Party group, and a smaller 
more
militant group called (for the sake of confusion?) Green Party USA.

A member of the latter smaller group pulled the airport stunt with a
lot of hysterics, apparently, to get maximum attention. A member of the
mainstream group checked the story with the following results.

Politics is a form of show biz. I could not find the Salon story. -- R

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knox@scvnet.com writes:
I understand that Nancy Oden, Green Party USA coordinating committee
member, was not allowed to board an American Airlines flight at the
Bangor airport on Thursday.

According to her version she was ordered away from the plane. Military
personnel with automatic weapons surrounded her and instructed all
airlines to deny her passage on ANY flight. "I was told that the airport
was closed to me until further notice and that my ticket would not be
refunded," Oden said.

If this is true and provided that she was not clearly violating some law
this is very upsetting.

I understand that she may not be telling the full story. Can you
possible explain what happened there. I would be particularly interested
in specifics - for example not "she made people nervous" but for example
"she was carrying a gun" or something. If she was doing something
illegal was she taken to jail? If not why was she not allowed to fly?

Richard Knox


Richard:

Thank you for writing.  Ms. Oden's version of events, while certainly
exciting, are far removed from reality.  Her Green status was and is
irrelevent.  The passenger in question was asked to undergo additional
screening (i.e. a hand wand examination) because the manner in which she
purchased the ticket triggered a concern under the new Federal screening
guidelines post September, 11.  She refused to cooperate and became quite
abusive.   It is illegal for an airline to fly an unscreened passenger.
Accordingly, the airline denied her boarding.  She never got near a 
plane.
  She never went through security.   No screen, no fly--it is as simple as
that.  The situation was entirely of her own making.   What's sad is that
she refuses to admit to and take responsibility for her own inappropriate
behavior, looking only for somebody else to blame for her own inability 
to
cooperate with reasonable expectations under the circumstances.  99.9% of
people selected are very understanding and cooperative and the process
only takes an extra minute.

Again, thanks for writing to express your concerns and appreciate your
efforts to objectively view the circumstances.


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Here is what really happened. 


There are two green organizations; there is the big main group that
ran 

Nader for Prez,  called "Green party of the United States", and
recognized 

internationally as part of the world Green Party group, and a smaller
more 

militant group called (for the sake of confusion?) Green Party USA. 


A member of the latter smaller group pulled the airport stunt with a 

lot of hysterics, apparently, to get maximum attention. A member of
the 

mainstream group checked the story with the following results.


Politics is a form of show biz. I could not find the Salon story. -- R


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knox@scvnet.com writes:

<color><param>0000,0000,DEDE</param>I understand that Nancy Oden,
Green Party USA coordinating committee

member, was not allowed to board an American Airlines flight at the

Bangor airport on Thursday.


According to her version she was ordered away from the plane. Military

personnel with automatic weapons surrounded her and instructed all

airlines to deny her passage on ANY flight. "I was told that the
airport

was closed to me until further notice and that my ticket would not be

refunded," Oden said.


If this is true and provided that she was not clearly violating some
law

this is very upsetting.


I understand that she may not be telling the full story. Can you

possible explain what happened there. I would be particularly
interested

in specifics - for example not "she made people nervous" but for
example

"she was carrying a gun" or something. If she was doing something

illegal was she taken to jail? If not why was she not allowed to fly?


Richard Knox


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Richard:


Thank you for writing.  Ms. Oden's version of events, while certainly

exciting, are far removed from reality.  Her Green status was and is

irrelevent.  The passenger in question was asked to undergo additional

screening (i.e. a hand wand examination) because the manner in which
she

purchased the ticket triggered a concern under the new Federal
screening

guidelines post September, 11.  She refused to cooperate and became
quite

abusive.   It is illegal for an airline to fly an unscreened passenger.

Accordingly, the airline denied her boarding.  She never got near a
plane.

 She never went through security.   No screen, no fly--it is as simple
as

that.  The situation was entirely of her own making.   What's sad is
that

she refuses to admit to and take responsibility for her own
inappropriate

behavior, looking only for somebody else to blame for her own
inability to

cooperate with reasonable expectations under the circumstances.  99.9%
of

people selected are very understanding and cooperative and the process

only takes an extra minute.


Again, thanks for writing to express your concerns and appreciate your

efforts to objectively view the circumstances.



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