US Army Study: Mossad Might Frame Arabs
Wayne Johnson
cadaobh2@brgnet.com
Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:32:36 -0500
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Roger. Please do not confuse me with someone who always believes what they
read in print. Nor what comes out of the Pentagonpress releases...nor the
NYTimes...etc. I even have cause to doubt, on occasion, gasp, Dan Rather.
(Oh, what was the "conservative Wash. paper"? The Post? The, ugh,
right-wing Times?)
That the Army considers the Mossad a threat is not new news nor especially
revealing of anything but the incipient paranoia that rages through our
military qua espionage bureaucracies. And, of course, they may be quite
right in their assessment. Now the real problem is when the military
paranoia merges or morphs with my own, then I become doubly cursed. On the
up side, I have some bleak awareness that I am a paranoid person...and, yes,
there have been times when.....
I guess my umbrage centers in the question of what is the "message". What
is it? Is it just the sad business of continued military intervention in
the Palestine/Israel situation (which may, in fact, be the only means of
keeping them from exterminating one another) or something subtler, like a
gradual effort to build a wedge between Israel and the US? And this is not
to say that I am by any means a 100% supporter of Israeli policies, quite
the contrary, especially with regards to West Bank settlements. Further, I
am always saddened by the Likud's rants and the conservative opposition to
anything resembling a decent remedy to the Palestinian poverty.
But then, when you live ten miles from a group of people who are
indoctrinated from birth that Jews are evil, how much can you be expected to
give away? My only notion of a solution is, outside of land, to build a
viable economy so poverty and ignorance can be eliminated. The sooner the
better.
Does this clarify anything?
Cheers.
Wayne
-----Original Message-----
From: austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]On Behalf Of Roger Baker
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:59 AM
To: austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net
Subject: Re: US Army Study: Mossad Might Frame Arabs
On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, at 06:07 PM, Wayne Johnson wrote:
Well, this is certainly interesting, but I am not sure what value it
brings to The List's understanding of the
tension in the Middle East. The Mossad is no more "ruthless" than most
other secret police organizations, including our own.
Personally, I am ALWAYS suspicious of articles, regardless of source,
which smell subtlely of anti-Israeli/Jewish bias.
Wayne
This article may not be important to this list, but it does seem to be an
accurate portrayal of a point of view held by the Army School of Military
Studies
as reported in a rather conservative Washington paper.
Rather than being suspicious of articles that reveal that the US military
does not
always support your own point of view, wouldn't it be be better to aim
your criticism
at the US Army for saying this stuff?
Your theory might possibly be that the enemies of MOSSAD (the Israeli's
analog
of the CIA) have gotten their agents into the US Army's think tank where
they are
undermining the truth by calling MOSSAD ruthless and cunning, while they
also
call the Palestinian youth out of control (but aren't they out of
control?)
Me? I tend to think the US Army got caught red-handed telling the truth
about the
reality of potential US involvement, even when the truth does not exactly
match
the standardized version of reality presented on the evening news. --
Roger
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"...But a 68-page paper by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies
(SAMS)
does provide a look at the daunting task any international peacekeeping
force would
face if the United Nations authorized it, and Israel and the Palestinians
ever reached
a peace agreement. Located at Fort Leavenworth, Kan., the School for
Advanced Military
Studies is both a training ground and a think tank for some of the Army's
brightest officers...
Of the MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say:
"Wildcard.
Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and make it
look like a
Palestinian/Arab act." On the Palestinian side, the paper describes their
youth as
"loose cannons; under no control, sometimes violent." The study lists five
Arab terrorist
groups that could target American troops for assassination and
hostage-taking. The
study recommends "neutrality in word and deed" as one way to protect U.S.
soldiers
from any attack. It also says Syria, Egypt and Jordan must be warned "we
will act
decisively in response to external attack."..."
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Wash.=20
paper"? The Post? The, ugh, right-wing =
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color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2>That the Army considers the Mossad a threat is not new news nor =
especially revealing of anything but the incipient paranoia that rages=20
through our military qua espionage bureaucracies. And, =
of=20
course, they may be quite right in their assessment. Now the =
real=20
problem is when the military paranoia merges or morphs with my own, then =
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size=3D2>I guess my umbrage centers in the question of what is the=20
"message". What is it? Is it just the sad business of =
continued=20
military intervention in the Palestine/Israel situation (which may, in =
fact, be=20
the only means of keeping them from exterminating one another) or =
something=20
subtler, like a gradual effort to build a wedge between Israel and the=20
US? And this is not to say that I am by any means a 100% =
supporter=20
of Israeli policies, quite the contrary, especially with regards to West =
Bank=20
settlements. Further, I am always saddened by the Likud's rants =
and the=20
conservative opposition to anything resembling a decent remedy to the=20
Palestinian poverty. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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indoctrinated from birth that Jews are evil, how much can you be =
expected to=20
give away? My only notion of a solution is, outside of land, to =
build a=20
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sooner the=20
better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D880001613-13122001><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D880001613-13122001><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" =
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size=3D2>Does this clarify anything?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D880001613-13122001><FONT face=3D"MS Sans Serif" =
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net=20
[mailto:austin-ghetto-list-admin@pairlist.net]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Roger=20
Baker<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, December 13, 2001 3:59 =
AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
austin-ghetto-list@pairlist.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: US Army Study: =
Mossad=20
Might Frame Arabs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>On Wednesday, December 12, 2001, =
at=20
06:07 PM, Wayne Johnson wrote:<BR><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><?color><?param 0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller>Well, this is =
certainly=20
interesting, but I am not sure what value it brings to The List's=20
understanding of the =
<BR><?/smaller><?/color></BLOCKQUOTE><?color><?param =
0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE>tension in the Middle East. The Mossad is no more=20
"ruthless" than most other secret police organizations, including =
our=20
own. </BLOCKQUOTE><?/smaller><?/color>
<BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR><?color><?param =
0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller>Personally,=20
I am ALWAYS suspicious of articles, regardless of source, which =
smell=20
subtlely of anti-Israeli/Jewish=20
bias. <?/smaller><?/color><BR> <BR><?color><?param =
0000,0000,FFFF><?smaller>Wayne<?/smaller><?/color><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><B=
R>This=20
article may not be important to this list, but it does seem to be an=20
<BR>accurate portrayal of a point of view held by the Army School of =
Military=20
Studies<BR>as reported in a rather conservative Washington=20
paper.<BR><BR>Rather than being suspicious of articles that reveal =
that the US=20
military does not <BR>always support your own point of view, wouldn't =
it be be=20
better to aim your criticism <BR>at the US Army for saying this stuff? =
<BR><BR>Your theory might possibly be that the enemies of MOSSAD (the=20
Israeli's analog <BR>of the CIA) have gotten their agents into the US =
Army's=20
think tank where they are <BR>undermining the truth by calling MOSSAD =
ruthless=20
and cunning, while they also <BR>call the Palestinian youth out of =
control=20
(but aren't they out of control?)<BR><BR>Me? I tend to think the US =
Army got=20
caught red-handed telling the truth about the<BR>reality of potential =
US=20
involvement, even when the truth does not exactly match <BR>the =
standardized=20
version of reality presented on the evening news. --=20
=
Roger<BR><BR><BR><BR>***********************************************<BR><=
BR><BR>"...But=20
a 68-page paper by the Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS) =
<BR>does provide a look at the daunting task any international =
peacekeeping=20
force would <BR>face if the United Nations authorized it, and Israel =
and the=20
Palestinians ever reached <BR>a peace agreement. Located at Fort =
Leavenworth,=20
Kan., the School for Advanced Military <BR>Studies is both a training =
ground=20
and a think tank for some of the Army's brightest =
officers...<BR><BR>Of the=20
MOSSAD, the Israeli intelligence service, the SAMS officers say: =
"Wildcard.=20
<BR>Ruthless and cunning. Has capability to target U.S. forces and =
make it=20
look like a <BR>Palestinian/Arab act." On the Palestinian side, the =
paper=20
describes their youth as <BR>"loose cannons; under no control, =
sometimes=20
violent." The study lists five Arab terrorist <BR>groups that could =
target=20
American troops for assassination and hostage-taking. The <BR>study =
recommends=20
"neutrality in word and deed" as one way to protect U.S. soldiers =
<BR>from any=20
attack. It also says Syria, Egypt and Jordan must be warned "we will =
act=20
<BR>decisively in response to external=20
attack."..."<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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